Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 07:53:37 07/29/02
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On July 28, 2002 at 21:41:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On July 28, 2002 at 21:03:38, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 2002 at 12:59:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 28, 2002 at 10:00:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 27, 2002 at 23:14:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 27, 2002 at 19:38:20, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 26, 2002 at 23:14:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 26, 2002 at 15:08:26, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Detlev Pordzik again. After the first complaint the moderators did not even
>>>>>>>>answer me. So this is the consequence. Pordzik thinks that he had the right to
>>>>>>>>violate the charta of CCC which says that personal attacks are forbidden.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rolf Tueschen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There have been _zero_ complaints. At least _I_ have received no complaints.
>>>>>>>I assume the other two moderators have not either since we _all_ get the
>>>>>>>complaints sent to us individually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>if you insist, I can well publish the two texts CCC sent me in reaction to the
>>>>>>emails I sent to you (the moderators). Because when you send such a message
>>>>>>there is automatic message with text and the details of the time and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I quoted the numbers of the particular messages from "Pordzik" and simply
>>>>>>pointed out why his messages were abusive in the light of the charta of CCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Take e.g. the second complaint. There he states in his message that he couldn't
>>>>>>find any ranking place for me whatsoever. He then concludes that therefore my
>>>>>>contributions here are (I sum up his view) worthless. This is only a very short
>>>>>>summary. But - since I do not teach chess theory here, there is absolutely no
>>>>>>sense in such a message. The only reason for such a message is the personal
>>>>>>attack and so the abuse of the charta here that forbids personal attacks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Fell free to post them or email them to me. I did not receive them unless
>>>>>I was sedated without my knowledge...
>>>>
>>>>The evidence is right below here in the posting, actually it was already there
>>>>_before_ you wrote the little joke above. A joke because - as you described -
>>>>all three moderators get copies of such emails. Since I got the affirmation back
>>>>from your server it's clear that you should have them too - at least unless you
>>>>were sedated, of course without your knowledge... But in my case three
>>>>moderators should have been sedated without their knowledge, and this two times
>>>>in the last couple of days. Looks spooky somehow. I'm very worried about you
>>>>because if it's epidemic, then it's already world-wide since Christophe is miles
>>>>away from the USA. Of course there could be a different solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have not received _any_ moderator email complaints in the past couple of
>>>weeks? Any other moderator getting these from Rolf?
>>>
>>>I am getting daily moderator email from ICC about new folks signing up,
>>>but the only things I remember recently were a few users asking us to remove
>>>things they had posted themselves, or a couple of other complaints that are
>>>not Rolf-related...
>>>
>>>Any moderator recall anything different?
>>
>>
>>
>>I confirm that I have not received Rolf's messages.
>>
>>Rolf, just send them again. It seems that they have been lost in cyberspace,
>>together with the dozens emails of mine that get lost each month in the same
>>way.
>>
>>Email is NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>I don't think that is the problem. I think we have a problem with what
>is often called "vapor-email"... Email that was _not_ sent. I get daily
>ICC moderator messages about new sign-ups. I'm not losing email that I can
>detect. Which only leaves one conclusion...
That is maybe the case, but I think it is crude to assume it.
Maybe no email of yours or no email sent to you has ever disappeared in
cyberspace, but I can tell you that many emails I have sent or I was supposed to
receive have disappeared.
It happens more and more often. The reason is that viruses and spam overflow the
networks nowadays.
This is a very common and ugly problem with email. It has become very
unreliable, but people still assume it IS reliable.
I am going to send an email to the moderators address and see if I receive it.
So we will know if it is broken.
Christophe
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