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Subject: Re: Is The Computer\Grandmaster Debate finally over??

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 10:23:54 07/31/02

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On July 31, 2002 at 11:41:23, George Piles wrote:

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> I believe the Most vocal Critics has Been Silent, It is routine now for
>Programs to Get GM Norms even on relatively Slow machines. One would have to be
>a fool to say computers are Not GM Strength, since the evidence is Overwelming.
>I think it could be said with confidence that the top programs running on 500mhz
>and up are GM strength without doubt. I can't recall one "bad" result of the
>Computers in the last three years playing Humans. For those who claim that
>humans have only to get more experience against the programs and then the
>program results will get worst, i have this too say, "when will this happen" so
>far the computer results have Been consistent. Computers have won "far" more
>games then they have lost over a four year period. (more then enough time for
>humans to learn anti-computer methods}.

Rebel, Tiger, Junior, Fritz, Shredder, Hiarcs, and The King all play above 2500
on 500Mhz PIII/AMD and faster.  They also play above 2600 on 1Ghz P/AMD.  This
is for FIDE tournament or 40/2 time controls.  These games are compiled with
both match and tournament results.  The programs are strongest when the
programmer is also the operator.

2700+ GMs with practice can give the computers fits in match play, some people
(expert to GM) have a style that does better against the computers, but that
style is hard to emulate.  One 2700 GM could only draw a match with Rebel even
with 100 preparation games, while another 2700 GM can win the match with
preparation (however, not by much).

These programs have shown themselves to be strong GM's, but not un-beatable.





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