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Subject: Re: Is The Computer\Grandmaster Debate finally over??

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 10:37:02 07/31/02

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On July 31, 2002 at 11:58:23, George Piles wrote:

>  No we don't disagree, I too believe Computers are still behind Humans in
>Strength, but the Question was do they play at the GM level ?  The answer is yes
>and has been proven time and time again by the Programs.

I don't think anyone is going to argue with you about this, since computers are
achieving GM norms. Since it's clear that computers are at a GM level, what
exactly are you asking?

To me it's like asking, "Does anyone still think that the earth is flat? [insert
ample evidence that it's not flat here]." If someone posted that, I'd think,
"uhhh...ok...so what?" and I'd have a big question mark over my head. No one
still thinks that the earth is flat, and I don't see what point you are trying
to make by posting this. It's not even a matter of opinion anymore. Computers
ARE acheiving GM norms, which means they are playing at a GM level. That is a
FACT now. What am I missing?

So far it looks like you posted something obvious, then people think, "Surely he
isn't asking if computers are at GM level, since he gave clear evidence that
they are. He must be asking whether or not computers are better than the best
humans." and then you just restate your point, almost like arguing just for the
sake or arguing.

Maybe you should clarify what exactly your question is, since I don't know what
you're wanting in terms of responses, and others obviously don't know either.

Russell



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