Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 11:39:23 07/31/02
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On July 31, 2002 at 14:16:47, George Piles wrote:
>On July 31, 2002 at 13:37:02, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>On July 31, 2002 at 11:58:23, George Piles wrote:
>>
>>> No we don't disagree, I too believe Computers are still behind Humans in
>>>Strength, but the Question was do they play at the GM level ? The answer is yes
>>>and has been proven time and time again by the Programs.
>>
>>I don't think anyone is going to argue with you about this, since computers are
>>achieving GM norms. Since it's clear that computers are at a GM level, what
>>exactly are you asking?
>>
>>To me it's like asking, "Does anyone still think that the earth is flat? [insert
>>ample evidence that it's not flat here]." If someone posted that, I'd think,
>>"uhhh...ok...so what?" and I'd have a big question mark over my head. No one
>>still thinks that the earth is flat, and I don't see what point you are trying
>>to make by posting this. It's not even a matter of opinion anymore. Computers
>>ARE acheiving GM norms, which means they are playing at a GM level. That is a
>>FACT now. What am I missing?
>>
>>So far it looks like you posted something obvious, then people think, "Surely he
>>isn't asking if computers are at GM level, since he gave clear evidence that
>>they are. He must be asking whether or not computers are better than the best
>>humans." and then you just restate your point, almost like arguing just for the
>>sake or arguing.
>>
>>Maybe you should clarify what exactly your question is, since I don't know what
>>you're wanting in terms of responses, and others obviously don't know either.
>>
>>Russell
>
>
> Hi Mr Russell
>
>
> I think it is obvious you have not been following the discussions here on CCC
>for the last three years, it is by no means "clear" that Computers are playing
>at GM level to many at this Board, most notably Dr. Robert Hyatt and others. So
>then I can't understand why you think I am posting something that is apparent to all.
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Then you must believe that Rebel who never lost a match against a GM was purely
a fluke or luck of the draw! No chess player could ever accomplish this feat
unless he or she was also close to their opponent's strength and so in my
opinion some chess programs are worthy of the title status!
Regards,
Terry
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