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Subject: Re: Is The Computer\Grandmaster Debate finally over??

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 11:56:50 07/31/02

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On July 31, 2002 at 11:55:24, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On July 31, 2002 at 11:41:23, George Piles wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I believe the Most vocal Critics has Been Silent, It is routine now for
>>Programs to Get GM Norms even on relatively Slow machines. One would have to be
>>a fool to say computers are Not GM Strength, since the evidence is Overwelming.
>>I think it could be said with confidence that the top programs running on 500mhz
>>and up are GM strength without doubt. I can't recall one "bad" result of the
>>Computers in the last three years playing Humans. For those who claim that
>>humans have only to get more experience against the programs and then the
>>program results will get worst, i have this too say, "when will this happen" so
>>far the computer results have Been consistent. Computers have won "far" more
>>games then they have lost over a four year period. (more then enough time for
>>humans to learn anti-computer methods}.
>
>I must be a fool then. I believe that computers are still behind humans at
>tournament time controls. At time controls slower than tournament computer do
>far better but that is where it stops.
>
>Wait until Kramnik absolutely destroys Fritz in October then you will see what I
>mean. There is little doubt that Kramnik is going to win the match. The only
>question now is by how much he will win.

Your statement sum's up all that is wrong with the comp v human debate.

I beleive that Kramnik will win, but i would not be surprised if Fritz wins,
personally i think it will be a very close match and i have Kramnik as the
55%-45% favorite.

There is no way of knowing who will win until the match is over, you cannot be
so black and white (no pun intended) and some people tend to be when this debate
rears it's ugly face, it is always either "comps destroy humans" or vice versa,
as we have seen both statements can be true and the truth probably lies
somewhere in between.

Regards
Jonas



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