Author: George Piles
Date: 13:35:07 07/31/02
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On July 31, 2002 at 14:27:39, Terry Ripple wrote: >On July 31, 2002 at 11:58:23, George Piles wrote: > >>On July 31, 2002 at 11:55:24, Peter Skinner wrote: >> >>>On July 31, 2002 at 11:41:23, George Piles wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe the Most vocal Critics has Been Silent, It is routine now for >>>>Programs to Get GM Norms even on relatively Slow machines. One would have to be >>>>a fool to say computers are Not GM Strength, since the evidence is Overwelming. >>>>I think it could be said with confidence that the top programs running on 500mhz >>>>and up are GM strength without doubt. I can't recall one "bad" result of the >>>>Computers in the last three years playing Humans. For those who claim that >>>>humans have only to get more experience against the programs and then the >>>>program results will get worst, i have this too say, "when will this happen" so >>>>far the computer results have Been consistent. Computers have won "far" more >>>>games then they have lost over a four year period. (more then enough time for >>>>humans to learn anti-computer methods}. >>> >>>I must be a fool then. I believe that computers are still behind humans at >>>tournament time controls. At time controls slower than tournament computer do >>>far better but that is where it stops. >>> >>>Wait until Kramnik absolutely destroys Fritz in October then you will see what I >>>mean. There is little doubt that Kramnik is going to win the match. The only >>>question now is by how much he will win. >>> >>>You can take a 500 MHZ computer onto ICC and play < 15 mins per side against >>>only humans and do very well. Extend that time control to >90 mins per side and >>>you will easily see the difference. Try it and you will see what I mean. >>> >>>Computers are getting there. They are not there now though. >> >> >> >> >> No we don't disagree, I too believe Computers are still behind Humans in >>Strength, but the Question was do they play at the GM level ? The answer is yes >>and has been proven time and time again by the Programs. >----------------------------------- >Your statement: I too believe Computers are still behind Humans in >>Strength, but you do believe they play at GM level. > >Computers are only behind some of the very best GM's and not behind humans in >the chess population but now are capable of giving the very best a run for their >money! > >Regards, >Terry I meant to say computers are still behind the Best Humans.
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