Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 15:44:48 07/31/02
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On July 31, 2002 at 16:19:27, Sune Larsson wrote: Of course being a dutchman too like timman i don't want to give the impression i'm part of the defense of mr Timman. DIEP picks rd4 at 4 ply already and keeps it. however score ain't draw score. I hope you could show me how you draw after rd2. i have a +1.2 score white up after rd2. On the other hand however, Rab8 definitely is a pure blunder. Jan is getting a bit older now, but in reality Jan is showing how a western GM played from the previous generation. In the days that Jan Timman was young, he was a brilliant player, but in west-europe, in contradiction to the countries behind the iron curtain, they were not training their pupils in tactical skills very well. So where Jan Timman, had he been born as a russian, would have been a sure world champion, simply because his only weakness - making now and then a slip of the finger. Because imagine how this grandmaster, not so long ago number 2 on the FIDE ratinglist, and even counting short+kasparov who were not having a fide rating at that moment, Jan still was number 4. Imagine his playing strength without slip of the fingers! >I won't dive into the discussion whether top programs have >GM strange or not. We all know that GM:s make tactical mistakes, >suffer heavily from severe time pressure, sometimes lose concentration, >are influenced by their feelings/moods etc. Almost unexplainable mistakes >also happen. Like in the game below. > > > [D]r2r4/pp3pk1/4bp2/7R/8/5B2/PP3PPP/5RK1 b - - 0 26 > > > This is from the game IM Berg - GM Timman, Malmö 2002. > Move 26 and no time pressure. Here Timman played 26.-Rab8?? > His chess knowledge is far beyond playing such a move in this > position. With the natural 26.-Rd2 black would have saved the draw. > Activity is vital - activity in rook endings is super vital. Black is > under pressure and must create counter chances. Of course Timman knows > this and more - so why really did 26.-Rab8?? happen? Not so much tactics > here either. Fritz7 immediately chooses 26.-Rd2 with +0.47 for white. > After 26.-Rab8 Fritz shows +1.34. The whole game below. > > >[Event "Sigeman & Co Malmo SWE"] >[Site "Malmo SWE"] >[Date "2002.06.07"] >[Round "2"] >[White "Berg, E."] >[Black "Timman, J."] >[Result "1-0"] >[ECO "B03"] >[WhiteElo "2514"] >[BlackElo "2616"] >[PlyCount "79"] >[EventDate "2002.06.09"] >[Source "Mark Crowther"] >[SourceDate "2002.06.10"] > >1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. c4 Nb6 5. exd6 exd6 6. Nc3 Be7 7. Qf3 c5 8. >dxc5 dxc5 9. Be3 Nc6 10. Rd1 Nd4 11. Bxd4 cxd4 12. Nge2 O-O 13. Nxd4 Bf6 14. >Ndb5 Qe7+ 15. Be2 Nxc4 16. Nd5 Qe5 17. Nxf6+ gxf6 18. O-O Qxb5 19. Rd4 Qe5 20. >Rxc4 Be6 21. Rh4 Rfd8 22. Bd3 Qg5 23. Bxh7+ Kg7 24. Rh5 Qg4 25. Be4 Qxf3 26. >Bxf3 Rab8 27. Ra5 a6 28. b3 Rd2 29. h3 Bc8 30. Rd5 Rxa2 31. Rd8 Rc2 32. Re1 a5 >33. Ree8 f5 34. Bd5 Be6 35. Rxb8 Bxd5 36. Re5 Rc5 37. Kh2 Kf6 38. f4 Rb5 39. >Rd8 Bc6 40. Rd6+ 1-0 > >Sune
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