Author: stuart taylor
Date: 06:27:22 08/01/02
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On July 31, 2002 at 19:05:16, Slater Wold wrote: >On July 31, 2002 at 18:07:49, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On July 31, 2002 at 17:49:51, Nolan Denson wrote: >> >>>That is an amazing move ...How long did it take for Jr to find that move ??? >>> >>> >>> 15 73:51 0.48 1. ... Rab8 2. cxb4 Rxb4 3. Ng3 Rc7 >>> 4. Rd5 Rcb7 5. Rd3 Qg4 6. Qe3 Qe6 7. >>> Na5 R7b5 8. Bh6+ Kg8 9. Nc4 Rc5 >>> 15-> 79:33 0.48 1. ... Rab8 2. cxb4 Rxb4 3. Ng3 Rc7 >>> 4. Rd5 Rcb7 5. Rd3 Qg4 6. Qe3 Qe6 7. >>> Na5 R7b5 8. Bh6+ Kg8 9. Nc4 Rc5 >>> 16 79:45 1/47* 1. ... Rab8 >>> >>> >>>This is where i call it quits for Matrix ... very nice move. I will see what >>>Matrix thinks after the Rxc4. >> >>I can't buy Junior because of this alone! >>It might indeed be genius for a computer, but others I believe also have their >>particular geniusness in one or two positions. >>But you are looking at computerchess as a whole and are marvelling over that, >>which is atleast living life in the present! >>S.Taylor > >I have over 9,000 games with DJ7. On what is now pretty dull computer, I got a >3200+ rating in _blitz_ with DJ7 on ICC. Those were mostly 5/0 and the such. I >believe I was the #9 rated computer on ICC, and I played humans _and_ computers. > >I also have the 13(?) move game against #5 in the world against Junior. I have >posted it here before. > >DJ7 is the best engine ever made. Hands down. We're talking about an engine >that solved (Hi Bruce!) a Nolot position no other engine ever has. > >If _anyone_ ever needs a reason to buy DJ7, just look back at some of my evals >posted here, or ask for some games from ICC. > >There is not another engine on this planet that can match DJ7 at all around >chess. Period. I'm very impressed to hear your opinions. Maybe you can pinpoint many cases to illustrate it all. It would follow, then, that whoever had the opinion about Hiarcs 8.0 being a "must", even if it doesn't come top, because of some great understanding it has, would be beaten even on that count by Junior. In that case, if you want to see greatness, and you want one (more) program, get Junior, and DON'T get Hiarcs? Maybe! However, we all know that if you want results, you get Fritz. And even Tiger is above Junior in results. I would really be happiest if they both came together! (greatness and results) S.Taylor
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