Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 13:58:29 08/01/02
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On August 01, 2002 at 14:38:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On August 01, 2002 at 11:47:35, GuyHaworth wrote: > >>Did Hiarcs do enough to earn a GM norm, had it been carbon rather than silicon? > >For FIDE norms you have to apply to a number of things > a) the level of the games must be about 40 moves in 2 hours > and then 20 moves in 1 hour and then 30 minutes sudden death. >I am not sure the level of the games applied to this FIDE time requirement. >Also a bit faster than the above level is possible, but not much. > > b) the opponents must get from foreign countries, but they may not be > all from the same country. At least 1/3 of your opponents must be > from the other countries. However you need to count yourself too, > so in a 9 round event you need 4 foreign opponents from different > countries >I am sure this wasn't the case. The players came from Argentine, Uruguay and Brazil. Hiarcs played for Germany. > > c) at least half of your opponents, same rule like in b (so counting yourself) > must be at least IM and at least 1/3 must be GM. >Was this the case? 4 GM, 5 IM out of 10 human players + Hiarcs. Sune > > d) your TPR must be > 2600. We talk about FIDE tpr. You may count your own > rating here too, to get the tpr lower. > > e) preferably 1 round a day, but at most 2. There are more requirements. > > f) official arbiters and definitely not sold games. >I am not sure it is possible to show this in this case. It is a vague >rule of course, considering there are norm tournaments. > > g) at least 9 games. Opponents without FIDE rating count for 2000. > >Ok then we didn't adress yet that computers don't have a FIDE rating of >course. Otherwise human players would have an easy time to get a title >by beating a few computers where they can ideally prepare for if they >want to (regrettably in some respects they never do, because they don't >get paid to BEAT the computer ever). > >The FIDE is very tough if one of the requirements aren't met. For example >my club member and last year also team member Erwin l'Ami. He's 17 years >old. FIDE 2438 rated. > >An IM norm of him wasn't recognized because from all the conditions, one >wasn't met: there were 3 foreign players instead of 4 in the group of 10. > >It's possible he has a GM norm before he has his IM title... > >Best regards, >Vincent > >>Does FIDE acknowledge such achievements, or not? >> >>How can Hiarcs (or any engine) accumulate norms over time ... by proving that it >>is the same program that accumulated the previous norms ... given that ... >> >>Hardware/software combinations have a habit of evolving and might ... to quote a >>phrase ... go down as well as up. >> >>g
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