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Subject: Re: Crafty vs Rxc4 - 6 hours

Author: J. Wesley Cleveland

Date: 17:27:17 08/01/02

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On August 01, 2002 at 18:59:28, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 01, 2002 at 18:52:09, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>Tested on a dual AMD 1.73Ghz.  Crafty 18.15 from Hyatt's FTP.
>>
>>
>>
>>White(1): setboard r1r5/3nbpk1/4qnp1/4p1Bp/1pN1P3/1PP2Q2/4N1PP/3R1R1K b - -
>>Black(1): go
>>              clearing hash tables
>>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 360:00 (360:00)
>>         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
>>starting thread 1
>>                5     0.12   0.91   1. ... Ra2 2. h3 Bc5 3. Nc1 Rc2
>>                5     0.31   0.82   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Ng3 Kg8
>>                                    4. Kg1
>>         (3)    5->   0.32   0.82   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Ng3 Kg8
>>                                    4. Kg1
>>         (2)    6     0.46   0.83   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 bxc3 3. Nxc3 Nc5 4.
>>                                    Bxf6+ Bxf6 5. Nd5 Bg5
>>                6     0.78   0.78   1. ... Ra2 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Rc2
>>                                    4. Kg1 Ng4
>>                6->   0.85   0.78   1. ... Ra2 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Rc2
>>                                    4. Kg1 Ng4
>>                7     1.15   0.86   1. ... Ra2 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Ra1
>>                                    4. Nd3 Rxd1 5. Rxd1 Bc3
>>                7     2.98   0.73   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Rd3 Kg8
>>                                    4. Ng3 Bc5 5. Bh6
>>         (2)    7->   3.23   0.73   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Rd3 Kg8
>>                                    4. Ng3 Bc5 5. Bh6
>>                8     4.35   0.74   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Bc5
>>                                    4. Nd3 Bd4 5. Rb1 Ra2
>>                8->   5.12   0.74   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Bc5
>>                                    4. Nd3 Bd4 5. Rb1 Ra2
>>                9     7.96   0.75   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Kg8 5. Nd3 Be7 6. Bxe7 Qxe7
>>                9->  11.03   0.75   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Kg8 5. Nd3 Be7 6. Bxe7 Qxe7
>>               10    20.48   0.74   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Kg8 3. Nd2 bxc3 4.
>>                                    Nxc3 Bc5 5. Nd5 Nh7 6. Bh6 Ra2
>>               10->  27.43   0.74   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Kg8 3. Nd2 bxc3 4.
>>                                    Nxc3 Bc5 5. Nd5 Nh7 6. Bh6 Ra2
>>               11    44.68   0.76   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Be7
>>                                    4. Nd3 Nh7 5. Bxe7 Qxe7 6. Qg3 h4 7.
>>                                    Qf2 Kg8
>>         (2)   11->   1:26   0.76   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Be7
>>                                    4. Nd3 Nh7 5. Bxe7 Qxe7 6. Qg3 h4 7.
>>                                    Qf2 Kg8
>>               12     1:52   0.76   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Nhf6 5. Nd3 Bc3 6. Bg5 Nh7 7.
>>                                    Nf4 exf4 8. Qxc3+
>>         (3)   12->   3:02   0.76   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Nhf6 5. Nd3 Bc3 6. Bg5 Nh7 7.
>>                                    Nf4 exf4 8. Qxc3+
>>         (2)   13     5:11   0.63   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Kg8 5. h3 Ndf6 6. Nd3 Bc3 7.
>>                                    Rf2 Bd4 8. Nf4
>>               13->   5:51   0.63   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Nh7
>>                                    4. Bh4 Kg8 5. h3 Ndf6 6. Nd3 Bc3 7.
>>                                    Rf2 Bd4 8. Nf4
>>               14    16:40   0.70   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Nc5 3. Rd5 Nfd7 4.
>>                                    cxb4 Bxg5 5. bxc5 Rxc5 6. Qd3 Rc7 7.
>>                                    Qg3 Ra2 8. Qxg5 Rxe2
>>               14->  30:56   0.70   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Nc5 3. Rd5 Nfd7 4.
>>                                    cxb4 Bxg5 5. bxc5 Rxc5 6. Qd3 Rc7 7.
>>                                    Qg3 Ra2 8. Qxg5 Rxe2
>>               15    59:08   0.64   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Kg8 3. Ne3 Nc5 4.
>>                                    Nd5 Ncxe4 5. Nxe7+ Qxe7 6. Qxe4 Nxe4
>>                                    7. Bxe7 bxc3 8. Rd7 Nd2 9. Rc1 Rac6
>>               15->  67:56   0.64   1. ... Ra6 2. h3 Kg8 3. Ne3 Nc5 4.
>>                                    Nd5 Ncxe4 5. Nxe7+ Qxe7 6. Qxe4 Nxe4
>>                                    7. Bxe7 bxc3 8. Rd7 Nd2 9. Rc1 Rac6
>>               16   169:50   0.63   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Ra1
>>                                    4. Nd3 Rxd1 5. Rxd1 Bc3 6. h3 Kg8 7.
>>                                    Rf1 Nh7 8. Bh6 Qf6 9. Qe2 Qh4 10. Qf3
>>               16-> 220:49   0.63   1. ... Ra6 2. cxb4 Bxb4 3. Nc1 Ra1
>>                                    4. Nd3 Rxd1 5. Rxd1 Bc3 6. h3 Kg8 7.
>>                                    Rf1 Nh7 8. Bh6 Qf6 9. Qe2 Qh4 10. Qf3
>>              time=360:00  cpu=399%  mat=0  n=33382794664  fh=93%  nps=1545k
>>              ext-> chk=983771151 cap=80579769 pp=9925423 1rep=61533301 mate=587
>>9294
>>              predicted=0  nodes=33382794664  evals=2408593287
>>              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
>>              SMP->  split=1555  stop=261  data=10/32  cpu=1439:19  elap=360:00
>>
>>Black(1): Ra6
>
>I suspect that no engine besides the Junior in the contest will find it without
>tweaking parameters off from optimium.  I mean, even after a 1 week search on a
>stupendous machine they will not find it.
>
>I suspect (further) that even *after* Rxc4 it will take 24 hours for Crafty's
>score to improve to the point where the move will be understood as better than
>having moved Ra6 previously.

My modified crafty is doing a little better on a 450 Mhz Pentium II with 192MB
hash. After Rxc4, bxc4, b3, it took a little over an hour for the score to be
better (for black) than the above score for Ra6. I may let it run for a few more
days to see if anything happens. Note in the PV that white immediately returns
the exchange for the b pawn.

               14-> 157:01   0.42   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. Bg5 Rc2 8. Qh3 Qc4 9.
                                    Kg1 Qc5+ 10. Kh1
               15   172:21   0.54   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. Rd1 Kg8 8. c4 Qxf3 9.
                                    gxf3 Nb6 10. Rd8+ Kg7 11. c5
               15-> 264:31   0.54   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. Rd1 Kg8 8. c4 Qxf3 9.
                                    gxf3 Nb6 10. Rd8+ Kg7 11. c5
               16   314:32   0.41   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. Rd1 Rb2 8. c4 Qxf3 9.
                                    gxf3 Nf6 10. Rd6 Ng8 11. Bg5
               16-> 684:49   0.41   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. Rd1 Rb2 8. c4 Qxf3 9.
                                    gxf3 Nf6 10. Rd6 Ng8 11. Bg5
               17   825:01   0.36   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. h3 Qe6 8. Bh4 Rc2 9.
                                    Qd3 Ra2 10. Rd1 Nf6 11. Qf3
               17-> 2061:01   0.36   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. h3 Qe6 8. Bh4 Rc2 9.
                                    Qd3 Ra2 10. Rd1 Nf6 11. Qf3
               18   2434:54   0.29   3. Nc1 Qxc4 4. Nxb3 Qxb3 5. Rxd7 Nxd7
                                    6. Bxe7 Ra2 7. h3 Qe6 8. Bh4 Rc2 9.
                                    Qd3 Ra2 10. Rc1 Kg8 11. Qd5 Nf8







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