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Subject: Re: Hello from Edmonton (and on Temporal Differences)

Author: Rudolf Huber

Date: 09:11:48 08/02/02

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On August 02, 2002 at 08:24:47, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 02, 2002 at 02:10:46, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>Fine, though you should know I'm an ex-mac guy.  I suggest equal hardware, which
>>should be easy to arrange.  I don't really care about the tc or venue, whatever
>>you want will be okay.  Just not bullet. :)
>>
>>I admire your willingness to take the bet, and I hope you have a huge success.
>>But all my experience tells me otherwise.
>>
>>Will
>
>I doubt we can conclude a lot about the value of TDLeaf from this competition.
>Even if TDLeaf is better than hand tuning, you might still win the match because
>other parts of your program is superior.
>
>I don't think TDLeaf could improve a good hand tuned program by more than 50-100
>points tops, probably less (if any at all of course), so the training method
>will be just one small factor in the equation.
>
>IMHO, if you want to test TDLeaf, you should try it on a program like Crafty :)
>
>-S.


Any respectable result (>=25%) of TDLeaf would be a big surprise
to me. In my experience, automatic learning methods quickly learn the
simple things but have a hard time with the finer aspects of chess.

So for me it is not really necessary to use a common search engine
as a base to prove the point that the TDLeaf method has potential.

And one should also note that hand tuning will profit from public
source code which gives it a big advantage.
 Rudolf





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