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Subject: Re: Hello from Edmonton (and on Temporal Differences)

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 11:44:28 08/02/02

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On August 02, 2002 at 00:23:34, James Swafford wrote:

>On August 01, 2002 at 23:52:39, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On August 01, 2002 at 22:17:04, James Swafford wrote:
>>
>>>On August 01, 2002 at 22:12:27, James Swafford wrote:
>>>
>>>>You're serious? :)
>>
>>Sure.
>>
>>>>
>>>>I just got home from Edmonton.  Let me think on this...
>>>>Six months is definitely not doable.  I graduate in December,
>>>>and I've gotta hella course load this Fall.  But I might
>>>>consider a 12 month wager.
>>>>
>>>>If you're serious, let me know, and then let me think on it
>>>>for a day or two. I don't know if I want to take your money yet.
>>>>(Are you talking about "Amateur" ?)
>>>
>>>Agh... you said "new player".  You do realize we live 2300-2500
>>>miles apart, right?  I don't live in San Diego anymore. :)
>>>But I'd sure like to visit on your dime...
>>
>>Brash.  But you won't be needing to come out to the coast again.
>>
>>>>
>>>>And yeah, I think open source is fine.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>BTW... how big is your family? :))
>>>>
>>
>>Just me, the wife, and 2 kids.  I'll try to get one of those "kids fly free"
>>deals, so you won't have to hock the jewelry. ;)
>>
>>OK, one year it is.  I develop my new program, you do yours, and we have a
>>match.  Sources to be reviewed by some independent person, like DC.  Perhaps the
>>match should also be conducted by DC, say, 100 games at 40 5.  Or maybe at ICC.
>>
>>Just be sure to pick out a nice hotel for us.
>
>My family consists of my wife and me.  I'll bet airfare and hotel
>accommodations for two, plus a nice dinner, drinks, whatever for the
>family.  You'll have to fly the kids and put them up yourself.
>
>If that sounds fair, then let's talk specifics.  I play with an engine
>with a completely TD trained eval, against your program with a completely
>hand tuned eval.  The engine must be your (and my) own, of course.
>I vote Dann Corbit to verify source.  Open hardware, since you're a Mac
>guy and I'm not. :)  Match length is open for discussion.  I'd kinda
>like to play (at least some of the match) on ICC.
>
>My wife is looking forward to going back to the west coast. :)
>
>--
>James
>
>

Hi James,

This a cool bet, but it seems to me that the deck is stacked against you.
You're trying a brand new technique, while Will is just rewriting what was
already a pretty strong engine.

Anyway, I admire your confidence.  Best of luck!  :)

-Peter




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