Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:02:25 08/02/02
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On August 02, 2002 at 05:18:36, Sune Larsson wrote: >On August 01, 2002 at 23:15:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 01, 2002 at 11:47:35, GuyHaworth wrote: >> >>>Did Hiarcs do enough to earn a GM norm, had it been carbon rather than silicon? > >>> >> >>No idea. I thought that a GM norm was equivalent to a 2600+ performance >>rating... Could be wrong there however. > > > You are correct here Bob. This is one of the basic criterias for making > a GM norm. And this is strictly calculated. Some months ago IM Berg > played a a swiss in Hamburg. The situation before the last round was that > a draw would give him a performance of 2594. This was not enough for a > GM norm. He had to play for a win (lost it by the way) to make this > 2600+ performance. > > Sune That is what I remembered. An international arbiter told me (many years ago) about how to compute the GM "norm" number for any event. He said that it was based on this "performance rating" calculation, and that FIDE had computed a "norm" for many different category events, where the category is based on the actual average rating for the event... Of course, the way it is done and the way some want it to be done have nothing in common, so I suppose "the claims" will continue until one day computers _do_ produce TPR's high enough to satisfy the real norm requirements, then we can put it all to rest... At present, it is a combination of strong programs + wishful thinking -> GM norm equivalence... :) > >> >> >> >>>Does FIDE acknowledge such achievements, or not? >> >>No. In fact FIDE won't recognize or rate any games played vs a computer >>at all... >> >>> >>>How can Hiarcs (or any engine) accumulate norms over time ... by proving that it >>>is the same program that accumulated the previous norms ... given that ... >>> >>>Hardware/software combinations have a habit of evolving and might ... to quote a >>>phrase ... go down as well as up. >>> >>>g >> >> >>That is a problem... USCF used to register computer chess players as a specific >>program on specific hardware...
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