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Subject: Re: To Robert Hyatt, Dan Corbit, Christophe Theron , And Other Experts.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:11:44 08/05/02

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On August 05, 2002 at 12:05:56, Louis Fagliano wrote:

>On August 05, 2002 at 11:45:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 05, 2002 at 11:10:55, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>Do computers make decisions?
>>>If so, what is your definition of a "computer decision" and how it relates and
>>>differs from human decisions?
>>>
>>>Please cite examples. This can be from chess to any area of so-called "machine
>>>intelligence", please give _your_ answers, as well as information that can be
>>>obtained on the net.
>>>
>>>Your help with these answers will be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>>Thanks in Advance.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>> Terry McCracken
>>
>>
>>A couple of points.
>>
>>First, _yes_ a computer makes decisions.  For example, you can use an
>>external A/D converter to measure two temperatures in a steam plant and make
>>a decision as to which burner should be turned up or down based on those
>>measurements.
>>
>>Second, does a computer make decisions like _we_ do?  Impossible to say.  IE
>>can you _prove_ that the human mind doesn't rely on anything other than pure
>>binary values?  Nobody has to date, so that is an open question.  Wouldn't it
>>be funny if we one day find out that at the elementary level, everything we do
>>is on/off?  :)
>
>I'd have to question that because brains of living biological creatures do not
>operate digitally but rather holistically.

How can you prove that?  IE that at some basic biological level we are not
just storing zeros and ones???  It can't be proven _yet_, so it is simply
all conjecture.  But one day it won't be and we will _know_ whether we are
really unique creatures or just highly advanced finite state machines...



>  Early on in the evolution of life it
>was a clear advantage if a bacterium reacted appropriately to an external
>stimulus and the way to do that was by pattern recogintion (holoistically)
>rather than digitally on/off.  Pattern recognition is very hard to achieve if
>done digitally.

I don't believe that at all.  IE You define the pattern you want to recognize,
I will write a program to do it.  And given enough processors to do the
recognition in parallel (as the human mind does it) I can probably do it
faster.  And more accurately.




>
>>
>>Perhaps one of the best examples of "making a decision" is in computer chess,
>>where the computer has to choose between N moves and pick just one.  That is
>>_clearly_ a decision...



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