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Subject: Re: Here's one example

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:46:57 08/05/02

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On August 05, 2002 at 16:40:17, John Merlino wrote:

>On August 05, 2002 at 03:10:07, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>[D]8/4rk2/1p2r3/1Pp5/2Pp4/1K1P4/2PQ4/8 w - -
>>
>>Crafty's evalution after 14 ply +1,56.
>>
>>Jouni
>
>Chessmaster 9000 says draw:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-0.11	931		1.Qg2 Rf6 2.Qd5+ Ree6 3.c3
>0:00	1/3	-0.09	1210		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qh5+ Rf7 3.Qd5
>0:00	1/4	0.00	3468		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Kf7 3.Qg5
>0:00	1/5	0.00	10927		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Kf7 3.Qg5
>0:00	1/6	0.00	22026		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Kf7 3.Qg5
>0:01	1/7	-0.01	60257		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qg8+ Kd7 3.Qb8 Rf6
>					4.Qb7+ Ke8 5.Qd5 Rfe6 6.c3
>0:01	2/8	0.00	90638		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Qb7
>					Kf8
>0:02	3/9	0.00	203356		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>0:06	4/10	0.00	509136		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>0:16	5/11	0.00	1401084		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>0:42	6/12	0.00	3677032		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>1:51	7/13	0.00	9804440		1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>4:49	8/14	0.00	25940648	1.Qg5 Ke8 2.Qd5 Rf6 3.c3 Re3 4.Kc2
>					Rf2+ 5.Kb3 Rf6
>
>jm


The problem is that CM believes black is _losing_.  And so will try to go for
a perpetual.  If the eval were a tad different, and it believed that white is
winning here, then it would not see the repetition as it could avoid it whenever
it wants with WTM...



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