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Subject: Re: Hello from Edmonton (and on Temporal Differences)

Author: James Swafford

Date: 16:49:59 08/05/02

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On August 05, 2002 at 18:24:51, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 05, 2002 at 17:43:51, James Swafford wrote:
>
>>>>>Perhaps once you are convinced you are evaluating most of the really important
>>>>>things, this might work.  I'm a long way from that point myself...
>>>
>>>It sounds to me like a strange problem, I think I will have to see that for
>>>myself to believe it. I would expect the temporal difference to be 0 if there is
>>>a knowledge term missing, so i don't know what could be going on.
>>
>>No... if you are missing something important, other parts of the eval will
>>attempt to "compensate"; terms will be adjusted too high or too low.  It's
>>really important to get a pretty good set of terms for TD to work.
>>
>>An interesting observation if you think about it...  suppose you know pretty
>>well what the weights should be.  Then remove an important term, and see
>>what happens to other terms.  The terms themselves may suggests what is
>>missing.  (Schaeffer told me that, I've been thinking about it since.)
>>
>
>Ah ok, I will take your word for it then :)
>But if there is something missing, and other terms try and compensate, is that
>really a bad thing?
>It seems to me that you _need_ to compensate somehow for this lack of knowledge.
>The algorithm will do what it can, could be the weights will look strange to us,
>but if the result is better play then what does it matter?
>

Right, if you're missing something, then the best you can do is to
optimize for _those_ weights.  Whatever values you end up with, they
should produce the best results for that vector of terms.

I think some people have it ingrained in their head that certain weights
should have certain values, ignoring what it is the weights are doing
for you ( contributing to the selection of good moves ).

--
James




>-S.



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