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Subject: Re: A very difficult forced mate - can anybody find it?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 17:44:38 08/05/02

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On August 05, 2002 at 19:44:46, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>Very recently, Christian Bartsch showed a very interesting position in the FCP
>forum:
>
>[D] 6k1/ppb2p2/2p1rR1K/3p3p/6bP/N1PB2Pq/P4Q2/8 w - -
>
>It is from Jean Dufresne - Adolf Anderssen Berlin 1851. The only move to save
>the game is Bg6. But this moves even wins. After: 1. Bg6 Qxg3 2. Bxf7+ Kh8 3.
>Bxe6 Qxf2 4. Rxf2 Bxe6 Can any engine/mate solver see a forced mate after those
>moves?
>
>[D] 7k/ppb5/2p1b2K/3p3p/7P/N1P5/P4R2/8 w - - 0 5
>
>My engine cannot see it in reasonable time. When I analyze some variations from
>back to front, I see, that Rf8+ can announce mate in 15 (or even shorter?)
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

No luck with Chessmaster 9000 (on a PIII-600 -- although it did find 1.Bg6
instantly). Analysis begins after your above line:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	0.19	9261		5.Rf6 Bg8 6.Kxh5 Be5 7.Rh6+ Bh7
					8.c4
0:00	1/5	0.26	11923		5.Nc2 Ba5 6.Rf3 c5 7.Kxh5 Kg7
0:00	1/5	0.34	15241		5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Re8 Bb6 7.Kxh5 d4
					8.cxd4 Bxd4
0:00	1/6	0.38	24803		5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Re8 Bb6 7.Kxh5 d4
					8.cxd4 Bxd4 9.Kg5 Kh7
0:00	1/6	0.39	30476		5.Nc2 Ba5 6.Rf3 c5 7.Kxh5 Kg7 8.Kg5
0:01	1/7	0.40	62359		5.Nc2 c5 6.Rf6 Bg8 7.Kxh5 Be5 8.Rh6+
					Kg7 9.Rg6+ Kh7
0:02	2/8	0.35	144997		5.Nc2 Kg8 6.Kxh5 c5 7.Rg2+ Kf7
					8.Ne3 Bf4 9.Rf2
0:05	3/9	0.35	363038		5.Nc2 Kg8 6.Kxh5 c5 7.Re2 Bf7+
					8.Kg4 Ba5 9.Re3 Bg6
0:11	4/10	0.38	819382		5.Nc2 c5 6.Rf8+ Bg8 7.Kxh5 Be5
					8.Ne3 Kg7 9.Rc8 b6 10.Rd8 Bxc3
					11.Nxd5
0:25	5/11	0.36	2005177		5.Nc2 c5 6.Rf8+ Bg8 7.Rc8 Bf4+
					8.Kxh5 b6 9.Na3 Kg7 10.Ra8 a5 11.Kg4
					Be5 12.Nb5
1:08	6/12	0.37	5730477		5.Nc2 Be5 6.Nd4 Bg8 7.Kxh5 c5 8.Ne2
					Kg7 9.Rg2+ Kh7 10.Rg5 Bf6 11.Rg6
					Bf7
1:37	6/12	0.49	8184302		5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Re8 Bd6 7.Nc2 Bf4+
					8.Kg6 c5 9.Ne1 d4 10.cxd4 cxd4
					11.Nd3 Bd6 12.Kxh5 Kg7
4:17	7/13	0.40	21093210	5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Re8 Ba5 7.Nb1 d4 8.cxd4
					Bb6 9.Kxh5 Bxd4 10.Kg5 b5 11.Nd2
					c5 12.Nb3
11:48	8/14	0.81	59423363	5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Nc2 c5 7.Ne3 Bd6 8.Re8
					Bf4+ 9.Kxh5 Bxe3 10.Rxe3 d4 11.cxd4
					cxd4 12.Re7 Bxa2 13.Rxb7 a5 14.Ra7
21:48	9/15	1.15	112265721	5.Rf8+ Bg8 6.Nc2 c5 7.Rc8 Bg3 8.Kxh5
					Bf2 9.a4 b6 10.Ra8 a5 11.Rb8 c4
					12.Rb7 Bh7 13.Kh6 Bg8

jm



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