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Subject: Re: Its TIME to put GM V Computers to rest after October

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 14:19:10 08/07/02

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On August 07, 2002 at 16:03:41, Rex wrote:

>On August 07, 2002 at 15:19:46, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>On August 07, 2002 at 14:50:10, Rex wrote:
>>
>>>We find the two best GM's in the world verses the top Chess Programs on the
>>>market.  This should and will be the FINAL result in determining who is
>>>stronger, Computers or Humans.
>>
>>This fight is just entertainment for the chess public, nothing more nothing
>>less. Or to adapt one of my favourite quotes to this subject:
>>
>>"There's only one way to use the terms 'fight Kasparov vs Junior' and
>>'scientific' in one sentence, and this is it."
>>
>>
>>>If the match ends equally, the win goes towards the computer, in my mind.
>>
>>Lol! This one really made me laugh. :))
>
>It makes me laugh also.  NO GM at their level should allow a program to draw!!

Why not?  What if a draw is the best possible result and all other moves lose?

A computer may also see a "deep draw combination" where after a sequence of odd
looking moves it can achieve a three fold repetition.

I think that experience shows us that between highly skilled players of any
sort, it is easier to obtain a draw than a win.  To assume that a highly skilled
player must always win against another opponent (even 200 ELO below) is an
unlikely assumtption, I think, especially when we are talking about 2800 verses
2600 (or thereabouts).

With an ELO difference of 200 points, the inferior player will still get 1/4 of
all the points in a match (on average, of course).  So I think it highly
unlikely that _any_ player can blank a strong computer opponent in a long match.




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