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Subject: Re: I don't believe this!

Author: Joe McCarro

Date: 19:23:15 08/07/02

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On August 07, 2002 at 16:48:30, Keith Ian Price wrote:

>On August 07, 2002 at 16:11:55, Joe McCarro wrote:
>
>>On August 07, 2002 at 08:43:11, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>
>>>On August 07, 2002 at 08:01:27, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 07, 2002 at 07:25:51, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a hacker at site?????
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>Well have a look at chessbase:
>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/columns/column.asp?pid=145
>>>>
>>>>Jonas
>>>                           An interesting quote:
>>>
>>> "When I talked to him about the event, Kasparov repeatedly emphasized
>>>  that unlike the second Deep Blue match, science will be served in
>>>  Jerusalem. IBM's secretive behavior frustrated the computer and chess
>>>  communities and fueled accusations of everything from unsportsmanlike behavior
>>>  to outright cheating and the controversies rage on even five years later.
>>>While both sides clearly want to win this match, FIDE would like to make this
>>>an annual event that will promote the science behind the moves as well. The
>>>presence of computer chess guru and gadfly David Levy will no doubt assist in
>>>this endeavor."
>>
>>That was an unfortunate comment.  IBM decides to spend millions on computer
>>chess research, and millions for a prize fund and marketing of the chess match
>>and their thanks is to be called cheaters!  Gee why doesn't anyone want to get
>>involved sponsoring chess?
>
>IBM got way more advertising impressions out of those matches than they could
>have bought with 10 times the money spent on everything. They don't care that a
>small bunch of CC fanatics call them cheaters, as it makes little impression in
>the minds of "the public", who are convinced Kaspy was trounced soundly. While I
>don't think they cheated, I think they took every advantage they could.

1st) We should not  require a company to take a monetary loss before we thank
them for promoting our interest.  The fact that IBM may have made money should
not diminish our gratitiude to them for doing what they did.

Second) I don't think they care about that a  bunch of CC fanatics think they
may have cheated either.  But I'm sure it must have put a sour taste in their
mouths when Kasparov himself starts making these absolutely ridiculous
accusations to the press right after the match!  He post game antics and
unsportsman like conduct to the very hand that fed him was an embarrassment to
the chess world.

>No
>computer can, even today, go through the normal cycle of challengers for the
>right to play the world champion, and then have a decent 10-game match over
>three weeks for the championship and win without changing the program to hide
>its weaknesses that would be observed in its play in the challenge rounds. I
>don't even think it would win the right to challenge. When real championships
>are on the line, GMs play with more intensity.
>
>kp

I agree.



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