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Subject: Re: K v DJ and K v DF

Author: Anson T J

Date: 08:14:31 08/08/02

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On August 08, 2002 at 11:01:52, Omid David wrote:

>On August 08, 2002 at 10:38:50, Anson T J wrote:
>
>>>The Kramnik-Fritz match is a joke in comparison to the Kasparov-Junior "match of
>>>the century".
>>>
>>>While a so-called world champion will play a rather moderate program (see WCCC
>>>2002), in a forgotten place with no-one's support, the strongest human of all
>>>time will play the strongest computer of the last two years, with the support of
>>>official chess and computer chess organizations (FIDE and ICCA), in the capital
>>>of Israel.
>>
>>I don't think Deep Fritz is a "rather moderate" programme. Its hard to shine so
>>well in a tourny liked the WCCC. It scored 6/9 and came 4th. If you look at more
>>games like the SSDF list where Fritz 7 has played many games and was top of the
>>list last time, you will see that it accually much stronger than it looked in
>>the WCCC.
>>
>>Both the K vs Comp matches will be a challenge for both the programmers and the
>>Grandmasters. What would be nice is they would play K vs K and the Comp vs Comp
>>matches for comparison :-)
>
>No need for that: Kasparov will easily beat Kramnik (as he has done in the last
>two years) and Fritz can't pose any problem for Junior (the WCCChampion in 2001
>and 2002).

Fritz 7 A1200 vs Junior7 A1200  (20½-19½) (source SSDF)
Doesn't look like Junior is so much stronger than Fritz here. Remember only 1
game was played between Fritz and Junior at the SSDF.

It would be nice to see the "cross games" of 6 games you can't always predict
the outcome by the past. I'm not saying Fritz is Stronger than Junior or vice
versa, just the the programs are both TOP programs and Fritz isn't merely
moderate as you state.

(2002-07-30)
1 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2741 30 -29 574 64% 2636
2 Shredder 6.0 Paderb 256MB Athlon 1200  2727 34 -32 467 65% 2619
3 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200  2721 33 -32 487 63% 2627
4 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200  2718 31 -30 523 60% 2645
5 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2717 32 -31 505 64% 2618
6 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2716 33 -32 491 63% 2622
7 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2689 29 -29 593 58% 2632



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