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Subject: Re: Kasparov - Deep Junior score predictions?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:26:41 08/08/02

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On August 08, 2002 at 15:28:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 08, 2002 at 00:29:19, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>>On August 07, 2002 at 22:57:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 07, 2002 at 17:59:21, Mig Greengard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hyatt:
>>>>>
>>>>>I think it will end as close as Kasparov can make it.  He won't want to
>>>>>blast the program because of the IBM debacle in 1997 and because he knows
>>>>>the authors/sponsors.  That will make it interesting, maybe...
>>>>
>>>>So you think he can score at will against a program that made a 50% score in
>>>>Dortmund two years ago?
>>>
>>>A match is a _far_ different proposition than a tournament.  I think he
>>>can draw at will, and probably win at will also.  But I'll bet that as soon
>>
>>Win at will??  You have to be joking right?
>
>No.  I see GM players draw at will against commercial programs all the time.
>So much that many of the "computer" accounts won't play against the specific
>humans that do this.
>
>
>>
>>Draw at will?  I don't think so.  Junior won't take any short draws so Kasparov
>>will have to work for his money.  Junior is always trying stuff and has teeth as
>>sharp as a razor if you slip up, so even Kasparov will have to be on his guard
>>otherwise he will be embarassed.
>
>
>
>No point in arguing since it will be settled publicly before long.  I don't
>think _any_ GM will have trouble drawing against a computer whenever they
>want.

I believe that this assumption is wrong espacially when the GM
does not know the changes that were done in the program.

Suppose GM's get the following challange to play
a match of 10 games against Junior8(they can only get Junior7)
when they can earn 10,000$ if they do not lose even a single game
but earn nothing if they lose even one game.

If they believe that they can draw at will
then I expect most of the GM's to accept
the challange because they can be almost sure in earning 10,000$
and only the top GM's can earn more than it.

I am interested to know how many accept that challange.

Uri



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