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Subject: Re: Kasparov - Deep Junior score predictions?

Author: José Carlos

Date: 17:28:07 08/08/02

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On August 08, 2002 at 19:42:03, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 08, 2002 at 19:37:58, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On August 08, 2002 at 18:01:09, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>
>>>On August 08, 2002 at 15:28:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 08, 2002 at 00:29:19, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 07, 2002 at 22:57:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 07, 2002 at 17:59:21, Mig Greengard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hyatt:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think it will end as close as Kasparov can make it.  He won't want to
>>>>>>>>blast the program because of the IBM debacle in 1997 and because he knows
>>>>>>>>the authors/sponsors.  That will make it interesting, maybe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you think he can score at will against a program that made a 50% score in
>>>>>>>Dortmund two years ago?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A match is a _far_ different proposition than a tournament.  I think he
>>>>>>can draw at will, and probably win at will also.  But I'll bet that as soon
>>>>>
>>>>>Win at will??  You have to be joking right?
>>>>
>>>>No.  I see GM players draw at will against commercial programs all the time.
>>>>So much that many of the "computer" accounts won't play against the specific
>>>>humans that do this.
>>>
>>>Do you really mean 'draw at will' or do you mean they can draw some games very
>>>easily?  To me 'draw at will' means you can draw any game you want to.  I really
>>>don't think this is the case, especially when the GM is playing black and the
>>>computer plays 1.e4 :-)  With the white pieces maybe a strong GM can almost draw
>>>at will, but here too it is possible for black to play unbalanced positions (of
>>>course with more risk of losing).
>>>
>>>I agree that given the right type of position, a GM can hold the draw easily.
>>>But chess is not so simple that (even) a GM can *always* get the sort of
>>>position he wants!
>>>
>>>"Before the endgame the gods have placed the middlegame." Tarrasch.
>>
>>  I like that sentence very much. I think it was also Tarrasch who said "f4 is
>>_always_ premature" :)
>
>A list of quotes:
>http://thechesshaven.homestead.com/Qoutes.html
>
>Of which my favorite is:
>
>
>"When I'm white, I win because I am white.  When I am black
>  I win because I am Bogulyubov."
>                                                          - E. Bogulyubov

  Two more (free translation from spanish):

  "I've never beaten a healthy opponent" (Em. Lasker)
  "Every rook ending with a pawn up is drawn; every pawn ending with a pawn down
is lost" (I don't remember the author).

  José C.



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