Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:56:56 08/08/02
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On August 08, 2002 at 16:26:41, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 08, 2002 at 15:28:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 08, 2002 at 00:29:19, Peter McKenzie wrote: >> >>>On August 07, 2002 at 22:57:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On August 07, 2002 at 17:59:21, Mig Greengard wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hyatt: >>>>>> >>>>>>I think it will end as close as Kasparov can make it. He won't want to >>>>>>blast the program because of the IBM debacle in 1997 and because he knows >>>>>>the authors/sponsors. That will make it interesting, maybe... >>>>> >>>>>So you think he can score at will against a program that made a 50% score in >>>>>Dortmund two years ago? >>>> >>>>A match is a _far_ different proposition than a tournament. I think he >>>>can draw at will, and probably win at will also. But I'll bet that as soon >>> >>>Win at will?? You have to be joking right? >> >>No. I see GM players draw at will against commercial programs all the time. >>So much that many of the "computer" accounts won't play against the specific >>humans that do this. >> >> >>> >>>Draw at will? I don't think so. Junior won't take any short draws so Kasparov >>>will have to work for his money. Junior is always trying stuff and has teeth as >>>sharp as a razor if you slip up, so even Kasparov will have to be on his guard >>>otherwise he will be embarassed. >> >> >> >>No point in arguing since it will be settled publicly before long. I don't >>think _any_ GM will have trouble drawing against a computer whenever they >>want. > >I believe that this assumption is wrong espacially when the GM >does not know the changes that were done in the program. > >Suppose GM's get the following challange to play >a match of 10 games against Junior8(they can only get Junior7) >when they can earn 10,000$ if they do not lose even a single game >but earn nothing if they lose even one game. > >If they believe that they can draw at will >then I expect most of the GM's to accept >the challange because they can be almost sure in earning 10,000$ >and only the top GM's can earn more than it. There are certainly some that would accept it. The problem they have to overcome is boredom... After drawing 7 in a row, it is not easy to go out and play for yet another draw using anti-computer strategy. They tend to get impatient and decide to "play chess" for a game and that is usually a mistake if they aren't careful about how the position develops. > >I am interested to know how many accept that challange. > >Uri
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