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Subject: Re: mclane's summer tournament round#2, all pgn's

Author: blass uri

Date: 19:45:33 08/11/98

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On August 11, 1998 at 14:23:22, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 11, 1998 at 12:03:10, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I did not criticize you.
>>I only said good things about the opening choice of chesstiger
>
>aha.
>
>>In the second case I talked with a friend with a power book and he said me the
>>probability of 3.Nc3 was 0 in his computer but he has not fritz5.03
>
>maybe his computer is broken, or different power-books exist, or he has not
>loaded the power book, or maybe HE used different setting. I have no idea.
>I load the power-book, put setting to optimal, and thats it.
>If you don't have the same version of fritz, it makes not much sense to discuss
>this... you cannot replay chess games to prove manipulation without having the
>same version of the program...
>
>>and maybe the setting are a result of the games he played with fritz5.
>>I only posted facts.
>
>Facts are always interpreation of FACTS. Facts cannot be posted !
>Facts happen. Thats all. All you say about fact is interpretation.
>
>>I posted this about the reason the probability was 0:
>>"He said that maybe he changed some parameters and this is the reason."
>
>I give this back to you: maybe HE changed some parameters.
>
>>If I wanted to blame you then I would not post it.
>
>?? Sense ?!
>
>>I do not want to imply you cheat
>
>So what ?!
>What is the sense of your post than ?!
>
>>I did not say chrisrophe has programmed any killer line into it.
>>I saw tiger had an advantage after the opening so I said what I thought.
>>It was wise enough to choose an opening that Junior does not play usually
>>d4 Nf6 Bg5 so it was not prepared to play very well against it.
>
>I don't know which programs christophe has in guadelupe. But I would wonder if
>he would have had junior. I would estimate he has no junior.
>Ask him...
>
>>You may be right about Junior4.6
>>I do not think Junior4.6's general positional understanding is the strong part
>>of it.
>>In most of the cases Junior is wise enough to choose an opening when
>>it has good positional understanding.
>>In this case tiger surprised it by d4 Nf6 Bg5 and it was out of book at move 4.
>>it expected 4.f3
>>I think Junior's mistake was at move 4
>>Junior5 is a better program then Junior4.6 and Junior5 plays 4...Qa5
>>(4...Qa5 is the move fritz5 know as theory).
>
>I can play 10 games junior against tiger without book to prove your claim.
>If you can stand the result... :-))

Junior4.6 is not the last version
If you do it I prefer you will do it with Junior5 and chesstiger11.5
I think Junior5 as an engine for fritz is 20% slower then Amir Ban's Junior
so if chesstiger wins 5.5:4.5 or 6:4 the match is not decided


>Maybe we should ask Amir before, maybe he does not like to post the results...

You should ask him.
I think he would like to see the games if Junior5 loses because he can learn
from them how to improve his program.


>Junior 5 beta 16 bit has to play against DIEP 1.58.13, as you can see from the
>round3 pairings. Do you believe in junior ?!

I believe in Junior

Uri
>
>I would not bet... diep is strong too..
>
>>Uri



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