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Subject: Re: what is the size of the opening book of chess programs?

Author: blass uri

Date: 20:54:10 08/11/98

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On August 11, 1998 at 23:21:45, Mark Young wrote:

>On August 11, 1998 at 22:01:54, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Some programs like fritz5 with powerbook, Mchess7, and chesssystemtal
>>have big books.
>>The result is that they can follow wrong lines.
>>For example Fritz5 and Mchess7 can do a draw in the opening with white
>>
>>I think every move in a book the program play without checking should be checked
>>by the program before the game.
>>If the programs check 100 positions per day they can have in 3 years
>>a book theory of 109500 positions and I think it is enough.
>>I think grandmaster do not remember more theory.
>>I think a good idea for programs is to concentrate in a small number of lines
>>they understand.
>>
>>
>>They can have a big knowledge book but they should not use it without thinking.
>>If they lose they can learn by analyzing the games(1 move per hour in the moves
>>before the opponent has the advantage) and see where they did mistakes.
>>
>>There should be time of at least 12 hours between the games.
>>
>>Another option is to do singular extentions to the line of the game in the next
>>game.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I find a big book helps more. At least in fritz 5. The book I use is 12 million
>or so moves to depth 30. I can't think of anytime Fritz 5 played a draw line as
>white or black when still in book. I hardly ever get bad opening with the huge
>book I use. And that counts for human as well as computer players I have played.

can fritz5 with your book play the opening of the 2 games that Thorsten posted?
In these games fritz5 played a draw line as white and a bad line as black.

If the answer is no then maybe it is a good idea if chessbase will use your book
instead of the powerbook.

Uri





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