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Subject: Re: Kasparov offered $700,000 to lose to Deep Junior.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:17:50 08/09/02

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On August 09, 2002 at 20:53:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 09, 2002 at 16:37:39, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>Exactly that's always the problem human-computer and always will be,
>because the engine programmers must do usually insane effort to
>organize it. Look we talk about university in israel sponsoring it now
>together with FIDE. That means probably that fide ships an arbiter after
>endless talks from David Levy (good job btw!). In short we can imagine
>that the junior team themselves must have done unimaginable efforts to
>convince university jeruzalem, for which we congratulate them!
>
>Kasparov never worked against computers and never needed to either. the
>only game he probably regrets playing another random line against the
>computer was game 6 in 1997. Our only hope is that
>he hates being #2 of the world now behind kramnik and that he wants
>to show by playing a few good games from *his* side against junior
>that he can beat anything on this planet except Kramnik :)
>
>So unless Kasparov is that mule who needs according to a dutch saying
>to hit its head 3 times before understanding it's not smart to hit
>with your head, he sure will do effort here to not lose the match!
>
>I feel kasparov WILL do his best this time. In fact we will see it already
>within 2 games. If kasparov plays his favourite openings lines the first
>2 games we sure know he'll do effort to win.
>
>If he plays something like 1.d4 and then 2.nf3 or 2.c3 or some other
>random opening like 1.g3 or 1.d3 or 1.b3 and some f4 stuff where kasparov
>has proven to know less from than the average FM, then we know he's
>not giving everything but of course we first watch the result before
>doing a final conclusion :)
>
>For me after 1.e4 kasparov has INVENTED najdorf as being a successful opening
>and unless we see do not see him play that nor scheveningen where
>kasparov knows a lot from too, we can be sure that he'll do a lot of
>effort to win.
>
>Anyway $100k for such a big match (from potential PR viewpoint), you can
>earn more by betting on yourself for a bit more than $100k. I'm NOT
>accusing kasparov from doing that in 1997 btw. I would not officially dare :)
>
>In 1997 the diff was also like $100k or so.

It was much more.  I don't remember the specifics, but the difference
between winning and losing was on the order of 300K=400K US dollars.


>
>>They are offering to give Kasparov $700,000 to show up and lose.  He's only
>>human and that's an awful big temptation.  Why would he work a thousand times as
>>hard for an extra 14%?
>>
>>Just show up, play casually and without concentrating very hard, and you're
>>$700,000 richer.
>>
>>I've never heard of a match in any sport in which somebody gets only 14% more
>>money for winning versus losing.
>>
>>Why not cut the loser's share dramatically and make it interesting?



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