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Subject: Re: Kasparov offered $700,000 to lose to Deep Junior.

Author: Omid David

Date: 07:52:50 08/11/02

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On August 11, 2002 at 09:52:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 10, 2002 at 05:19:44, Omid David wrote:
>
>Then who is paying for this. It says university + FIDE on the homepage
>i read?

FIDE is the only financial sponsor.
Our university (Bar-Ilan) intends to host the 2004 WCCC. But isn't involved in
the Kasparov-DJ match.


>
>>On August 09, 2002 at 20:53:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 09, 2002 at 16:37:39, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>Exactly that's always the problem human-computer and always will be,
>>>because the engine programmers must do usually insane effort to
>>>organize it. Look we talk about university in israel sponsoring it now
>>>together with FIDE. That means probably that fide ships an arbiter after
>>>endless talks from David Levy (good job btw!). In short we can imagine
>>>that the junior team themselves must have done unimaginable efforts to
>>>convince university jeruzalem, for which we congratulate them!
>>
>>The Hebrew University of Jerusalem is not part of the event in any way. The
>>Haifa University which is involved, also doesn't support the event financially.
>>
>>>
>>>Kasparov never worked against computers and never needed to either. the
>>>only game he probably regrets playing another random line against the
>>>computer was game 6 in 1997. Our only hope is that
>>>he hates being #2 of the world now behind kramnik and that he wants
>>>to show by playing a few good games from *his* side against junior
>>>that he can beat anything on this planet except Kramnik :)
>>>
>>>So unless Kasparov is that mule who needs according to a dutch saying
>>>to hit its head 3 times before understanding it's not smart to hit
>>>with your head, he sure will do effort here to not lose the match!
>>>
>>>I feel kasparov WILL do his best this time. In fact we will see it already
>>>within 2 games. If kasparov plays his favourite openings lines the first
>>>2 games we sure know he'll do effort to win.
>>>
>>>If he plays something like 1.d4 and then 2.nf3 or 2.c3 or some other
>>>random opening like 1.g3 or 1.d3 or 1.b3 and some f4 stuff where kasparov
>>>has proven to know less from than the average FM, then we know he's
>>>not giving everything but of course we first watch the result before
>>>doing a final conclusion :)
>>>
>>>For me after 1.e4 kasparov has INVENTED najdorf as being a successful opening
>>>and unless we see do not see him play that nor scheveningen where
>>>kasparov knows a lot from too, we can be sure that he'll do a lot of
>>>effort to win.
>>>
>>>Anyway $100k for such a big match (from potential PR viewpoint), you can
>>>earn more by betting on yourself for a bit more than $100k. I'm NOT
>>>accusing kasparov from doing that in 1997 btw. I would not officially dare :)
>>>
>>>In 1997 the diff was also like $100k or so.
>>>
>>>>They are offering to give Kasparov $700,000 to show up and lose.  He's only
>>>>human and that's an awful big temptation.  Why would he work a thousand times as
>>>>hard for an extra 14%?
>>>>
>>>>Just show up, play casually and without concentrating very hard, and you're
>>>>$700,000 richer.
>>>>
>>>>I've never heard of a match in any sport in which somebody gets only 14% more
>>>>money for winning versus losing.
>>>>
>>>>Why not cut the loser's share dramatically and make it interesting?



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