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Subject: Re: 3 interviews about engine protocols with T. Mann, R. Hyatt and M. Blume

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 17:14:53 08/15/02

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On August 15, 2002 at 19:36:24, Eran wrote:

>On August 15, 2002 at 15:50:59, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>under the following address can be found interviews with:
>>
>>01. Tim Mann
>>02. Robert Hyatt
>>03. Martin Blume
>>
>>Main theme are engine protocols!
>>
>>The interview with Martin is so far only in German available, the interviews
>>with Robert and Tim also in English.
>>
>>With the permission by ChessBits!
>>(German computer chess magazine, interviews are from issue 18)
>>
>>Have a nice day ... I hope the big group of Winboarders found interesting
>>information.
>>
>>http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/interviews/interviews.htm
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>I am surprised to hear that Dr. Hyatt does not like UCI protocol. I hope he does
>not think that UCI protocol is a piece of trash, does he?
>
>Eran

Hi,

not surprised for me ... I know the discuss here about the new UCI protocol for
many months. Normaly I have the same opinion compare to Robert but UCI is free
and have much interesting options. More easy for users of chess software compare
to WinBoard, not for me :-). WinBoard is the standard engine protocol and if I
saw a chance to make a bigger publicity for amateur chess I used it. With UCI
have more users interest to play with amateur chess programs, users from the
group which used in the past only commercial chess programs. Good for amateur
chess and commercial chess.

On the other hand, you can see that it's possible to make a good WinBoard
Support (Arena's engine configuration for a good example).

We will look in the future of computer chess engine protocols. A long time an
interesting subject for all users of chess software.

All 3 opinions in the interviews are very interesting. I like the comments of
Robert, Tim and Martin!

But clear is ...
We have 160 free programs, enough material for all engine lovers. If we find a
way to used the engine protocols under one GUI ... all is fine and the best of
all is that users of commercial chess programs have more interest on amateur
UCI engines (many commercial GUIs have also a good WinBoard support, this is
clear).

Chessmaster, ChessPartner, Chess-Assistant, Chess Academy for examples. In my
opinion have all of this GUIs a clearly better support of the WinBoard standard
engines protocol compare to ChessBase GUIs. I like also ChessBase GUIs very much
(please not false understand).

Clear is also ...
We have enough UCI engines, to many UCI engines for interesting users because
users can not play with all of the available programs.

But commercial chess is in the next years in my opinion only a little group of
engines. Maybe in 2 years 50x more amateur engines are available and I am sure
in the near future also engines with a playing strength compare to top programs
at this time.

With other words:
We have now UCI so we can used it, it's free and if persons have fun on UCI is
this also OK for me :-)

Interesting is the comment by Bob ...
"I simply don't like UCI"

Give me one reason why a programmer must create an UCI engine if he have a
perfect working WinBoard engines and users of commercial ChessBase software have
a ChessBase native engine.

Today:
- WinBoard
- UCI
- ChessBase protocol

Tomorrow:
- Pumuckel
- Hotzenplotz
- the Pumuckel / Hotzenplotz combination

I hope that not more protocols comes in the near future. UCI is good for
learning from the situation ... we have enough protocols. A perfect running
protocol is better as 3 or 6 or 12 different protocols.

Best
Frank



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