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Subject: Re: the difference between lies and mistakes in facts

Author: blass uri

Date: 18:40:16 08/12/98

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On August 12, 1998 at 16:12:04, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 12, 1998 at 14:20:31, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>You said Fritz 5 lost to Rebel 10 in a match. And this was proof that Fritz 5 is
>>weak. The fact was Fritz drew Rebel 10 in the match and Fritz was on a slower
>>computer a P 200mmx for Fritz 5 Vs A P II 400 for Rebel 10.
>
>When somebody tells me that he has played a match of two programs against each
>other, and tells me rebel is killing fritz, I imply as a normal
>thing that he uses same machines.
>I have no idea which machines moritz has. He often changes his hardware.
>I prefer using the same speed hardware. I see no sense in playing different
>hardware.

I think moritz knew from the past that even with better conditions for Rebel9
Fritz5 beated Rebel9
so he decided to test Fritz5 against Rebel10 in the same not fair conditions
to see if Rebel10 is better then Rebel9.
I see sense in tests without fair conditions to see what is the eqvivalent times
between computer programs.

>When we telephoned this was said in a unimportant comment. We spoke about
>something different, and in a small comment moritz told me this thing about
>rebel10.
>I did not asked him about his conditions. As i said: i think fair conditions are
>the normal thing. but i see, not anybody thinks the same.
>If this makes me a liar in your eyes, i accept this.

This does not make you a lier in my eyes but I hope in the future you will be
more careful.
I think you did a mistake when you hurried to post what you assumed.

>What i don't accept on the other hand is, that you call me a liar here.
>Because this is IMO against the charta of this group.

I define someone to be a lier if he said something wrong when he knew it
is wrong or if he said something wrong when he has no basis to think like this.

I think you are responsible for posting  wrong information but not a lier.

Uri



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