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Subject: Re: Results of 112 engines in test suite "WM-Test" (100 pos) for download

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:11:01 08/17/02

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On August 16, 2002 at 17:39:48, Manfred Meiler wrote:

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>For all the other mentioned engines it seems to me that this test suite is too
>hard for them.
>The WM-Test was designed by the test authors Gurevich/Schumacher for engines
>with playing strength in a range of 2500 - 2800 ELO (look at the attached readme
>file) - in this point of view (ELO >=2500) I shouldn't have tested many of these
>112 engines... :-)

Did they check carefully that the test is correct?

When I look at the pgn it seems that lines are not  convincing
for computer programs.

For example in position 3 they give the line
1.Nf5 gxf5 2.gxf5 Nc7 3.Rg1 Ne8 and no word about the typical computer
move Rf7.

After Ne8 yace can see immediatly small advantage for white
Bxh6 0.54/10,0.65/11,0.54/12
but after Rf7 it says Rg6 -0.37/10,Rxg7+ -0.28/10,
Rxg7+ -0.47/11,Rg6 -0.30/11,Rg2 -0.21/11
Rg2 -0.22/12

Maybe it can see advantage for white after long analysis
(I did not try it) but I think that it is better to give some
tree to convince programs that the moves are correct(At least in part
of the cases I cannot use the pgn together with yace's learning to prove that
the solutions are winning moves in a reasonable time and I often
cannot even convince it that the move to find is the best move).

Uri



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