Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 08:13:20 08/18/02
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On August 18, 2002 at 10:54:25, Uri Blass wrote: 5k2/7R/4P2p/5K2/p1r2P1p/8/8/8 b LCTFIN04 (...h3!) h4h3 without EGTBs what time do programs need to get an aboslute draw score for h3 here? So *search* till it is a draw score. another thing. with 500k nodes a second, chiptest/deepthought 1, only searched 8 ply and became computer chess world champion with it. This was in a time that every computerchess game was decided before move 25 or so, by major blunders from all computers. I do not see why this old software doesn't get put in the right contest. It was good when it was produced, not it is of course outgunned by a zillion times by modern software. >On August 18, 2002 at 10:38:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 18, 2002 at 09:06:02, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>> Kasparov proved that he can defeat programs at fast time controls when he >>>defeated Deep Thought in a game/90 two games match in 1989. This program was >>>weaker than Deep Junior is today, >> >>How would you figure that? Deep Thought produced a 2650 rating over 25 >>consecutive 40/2hr games against GM players. Anybody else done that yet? >>Not that I have seen. > >If we look at the games we can find tactical mistakes of deep thought that >the top programs of today have no problem to avoid. > >One example is that deep thought let judit polgar to draw because deep thought >did not detect repetitions in the last plies and there are more examples. > >I do not know about impressive moves of deep thought from games that the top >programs of today have problems to find. > >I also believe that humans today know better than they knew at the time of deep >thought so comparing rating is not convincing. > >It is more interesting to compare moves and I know of no impressive move from >deep thought from games(there are moves that the programs of 1990-1995 on the >hardware of 1990-1995 could not find but the programs of today on the hardware >of today are clearly better). > >Uri
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