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Subject: Re: Is Deep Blue still considered better than Deep Junior ?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:22:24 08/18/02

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On August 18, 2002 at 15:42:34, Omid David wrote:

>On August 18, 2002 at 09:06:02, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>   Kasparov proved that he can defeat programs at fast time controls when he
>>defeated Deep Thought in a game/90 two games match in 1989. This program was
>>weaker than Deep Junior is today, as it searched well over 2,000,000 NPS, but
>>didn't have as much chess knowledge as Deep Junior.  He also defeated Deep Blue
>>in 1996. This program is obviously much faster than Deep Junior is today, but in
>>my opinion Deep Junior still has more chess knowledge than Deep Blue had back in
>>1996.
>>
>>PS: It is hard to compare Deep Blue of 1997 vs Deep Junior of today, but in my
>>opinion Deep Junior Chess Knowledge could make up for the difference of Deep
>>Blue super calculating power of 1997.
>>
>>Pichard.
>
>Deep Blue retired at peak, exactly like Fischer. However, saying Deep Blue is
>the strongest ever, is as ridiculous as saying Fischer is still the strongest
>player.


Maybe or maybe not.  If someone says to you "I have program X running on
secret hardware and it is searching at over 200M nodes per second" what
would _you_ conclude?  Would it particularly matter whether program X was
gnuchessx or Fritz?  IE I saw gnuchess clean the commercial's clocks a few
years ago on ICC when someone ran it on a _really_ hot box.  It rolled over
everyone, commercial and non-commercial, with relative ease.

We know how fast DB searched.  Is there _any_ convincing argument to offset
that ridiculous speed???




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