Author: Chris Carson
Date: 06:12:31 08/19/02
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On August 18, 2002 at 21:51:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 18, 2002 at 12:48:02, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On August 18, 2002 at 10:38:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >> >>> >>>How would you figure that? Deep Thought produced a 2650 rating over 25 >>>consecutive 40/2hr games against GM players. Anybody else done that yet? >>>Not that I have seen. >>> >> >>Deep Thought was a great piece of HW/SW for it's time. Just a few observations >>when comparing to today's program: >> >>1. DT did that aginst GM's with average ELO of 2475 (not very strong for GM's). >> >>2. DT played against GM's that had far less experience (none) using >>anti-computer tatics. >> >>3. There are a lot of tatical/strategic holes in DT games that modern >>commercial programs do not make. >> >>4. Today's programs would crush DT. >> >>5. The GM's that DJ, DF, CT, Rebel, Hiarcs, The King have played recently would >>crush DT. >> >>6. DT would have no chance in a match with a 2700 GM (today) that had 100 games >>of preparation, Rebel played this GM even for 4 games. >> >>7. I am pretty sure I could crush DT today. >> >>Chris > > >I can't prove anything about deep thought, but I'll offer you a chance to >put up or shut up on point 7. Deep Thought easily beat Cray Blitz every time >we played (except for the first, where we could have won had we not run into >a serious bug). Cray Blitz waxed Crafty in a 10 game match last year. >That means _you_ should be able to wax crafty on my quad xeon easily if you >could crush deep thought. > >Let me know when you are ready to "take the test". > >I don't believe you can do it for a minute... > >But the ball is in your court to accept the challenge... Here are all the PGN's for DT and DB. Cherry pick any you like. I do not think DT/DB or HSU needs the help, their accomplishments were very good, but no need to make them out to be better than today's programs or mis-represent them, you do more harm than help. Here are the ELO's against FIDE rated players for DT/DB and Commercials, the commercials have passed DT and DB96 ELO performance, DB97 will fall when it falls: PGN's: http://home.interact.se/~w100107/welcome.htm Ratings HvC: http://home.interact.se/~w100107/manmachine.htm I am done discussing this with you unless you can "show with PGN's" something different. Chris
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