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Subject: Re: with text, this time :-)

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 01:41:35 08/20/02

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On August 20, 2002 at 04:24:30, Mike S. wrote:

>On August 20, 2002 at 03:41:39, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Pardon my ignorance, but was Süchting a GM?
>
>I don't think so. Karlsbad 1911 was a before-FIDE event, so there was no GM
>title comparable to the present. But a line in the slav defence is named after
>him, from a Karlsbad game.
>
>But he was strong enough to compete in the strongest tournaments of that time,
>for example:
>
>Duesseldorf  1908
>
>                            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
>1   Marshall,Frank James    * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1  11.5/15
>2   Salwe,Georg             ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½  10.0/15
>3   Spielmann,Rudolf        0 ½ * 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 0 1 1 1   9.5/15
>4   John,Walter             ½ 0 1 * 0 ½ ½ 0 1 1 1 1 ½ 1 0 1   9.0/15
>5   Mieses,Jacques          ½ ½ ½ 1 * 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 ½ ½ 0   8.5/15
>6   Brody,Miklos            0 ½ 0 ½ 0 * 1 0 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 0   8.0/15
>7   Suechting,Hugo          ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 * 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1   7.5/15  52.00
>8   Johner,Paul             0 0 0 1 0 1 0 * 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 0   7.5/15  51.25
>9   Treybal,Karel           ½ 0 ½ 0 1 0 ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½   7.0/15
>10  Jakob,A                 0 1 ½ 0 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ * 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½   6.5/15  49.25
>11  Wolf,Heinrich           ½ ½ 0 0 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 * 0 ½ ½ 0 ½   6.5/15  49.00
>12  Von Bardeleben,Curt     0 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 * 1 ½ ½ 1   6.5/15  41.75
>13  Przepiorka,Dawid        0 ½ 1 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 * ½ 1 1   6.0/15
>14  Von Gottschall,Hermann  ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * 0 1   5.5/15  38.75
>15  Swiderski,Rudolf        0 0 0 1 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ 1 ½ 0 1 * 1   5.5/15  36.75
>16  Fritz,Alexander         0 ½ 0 0 1 1 0 1 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 *   5.0/15

Did he ever win a major tournament or in some way distinguish himself in a way
similar to what a GM would have to do today to get a GM norm?  SCID has a rough
calculation of his ELO at 2450, which would make him approximately an IM in his
day.



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