Author: martin fierz
Date: 02:08:33 08/20/02
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On August 20, 2002 at 04:41:35, Dann Corbit wrote: >On August 20, 2002 at 04:24:30, Mike S. wrote: > >>On August 20, 2002 at 03:41:39, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>Pardon my ignorance, but was Süchting a GM? >> >>I don't think so. Karlsbad 1911 was a before-FIDE event, so there was no GM >>title comparable to the present. But a line in the slav defence is named after >>him, from a Karlsbad game. >> >>But he was strong enough to compete in the strongest tournaments of that time, >>for example: >> >>Duesseldorf 1908 >> >> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 >>1 Marshall,Frank James * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 11.5/15 >>2 Salwe,Georg ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 10.0/15 >>3 Spielmann,Rudolf 0 ½ * 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 0 1 1 1 9.5/15 >>4 John,Walter ½ 0 1 * 0 ½ ½ 0 1 1 1 1 ½ 1 0 1 9.0/15 >>5 Mieses,Jacques ½ ½ ½ 1 * 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 ½ ½ 0 8.5/15 >>6 Brody,Miklos 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 * 1 0 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 0 8.0/15 >>7 Suechting,Hugo ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 * 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 7.5/15 52.00 >>8 Johner,Paul 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 * 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 0 7.5/15 51.25 >>9 Treybal,Karel ½ 0 ½ 0 1 0 ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 7.0/15 >>10 Jakob,A 0 1 ½ 0 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ * 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 6.5/15 49.25 >>11 Wolf,Heinrich ½ ½ 0 0 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 * 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 6.5/15 49.00 >>12 Von Bardeleben,Curt 0 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 * 1 ½ ½ 1 6.5/15 41.75 >>13 Przepiorka,Dawid 0 ½ 1 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 * ½ 1 1 6.0/15 >>14 Von Gottschall,Hermann ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * 0 1 5.5/15 38.75 >>15 Swiderski,Rudolf 0 0 0 1 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ 1 ½ 0 1 * 1 5.5/15 36.75 >>16 Fritz,Alexander 0 ½ 0 0 1 1 0 1 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 * 5.0/15 > >Did he ever win a major tournament or in some way distinguish himself in a way >similar to what a GM would have to do today to get a GM norm? SCID has a rough >calculation of his ELO at 2450, which would make him approximately an IM in his >day. how does SCID get at this elo? by retrocomputing with results of players without elo against players with elo? i find this quite interesting. nunn states that he thinks suechting was worth 2100 elo on a good day with tail wind... this just goes to show that such retrocomputed elo numbers are pretty much worthless!
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