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Subject: Re: positions when deep thought blundered

Author: Gordon Rattray

Date: 03:33:05 08/21/02

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On August 20, 2002 at 21:48:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 20, 2002 at 18:42:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:49:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:02:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I include only gam,es from 1993
>>>>
>>>>Deep Blue - Hamann,S
>>>>5R2/r5pp/3N2k1/3Ppp2/2P5/p7/P5PP/2n3K1 w - - 0 38 bm Nb5
>>>
>>>What did DT play here?  I only find Nb5 and I find it instantly and stick
>>>with it...  score =+1.5 so apparently DT was winning here.  Did it lose by
>>>playing something else???
>>
>>Yes it lost by Rxf5
>>
>>This is a typical computer move because it wins a pawn if you do not search deep
>>enough when Nb5 does not win a pawn(unless you search very deep and I am sure
>>that your +1.5 is based on poasitional factors).
>
>The problem here is that we don't know what happened in the game.  IE deep
>thought _always_ played over a network connection.  In the late 80's and
>early 90's the net was not as accessible and reliable as it is today, and it
>is certainly possible that they lost the connection, didn't know it, and
>after they found out, they had to move quickly.  Happened to me and Cray Blitz
>many times.  Happened to deep thought against Fritz in Hong Kong 1995 in
>fact...


I think I remember reading about this in a chess magazine (Chess Monthly, UK) at
the time.  DT played Rxf5 after about 30 seconds.  Later it was discovered that
a 42 second search would have found Nb5.  Even if my figures aren't exact, I'm
pretty sure they're close (I can dig it out if necessary).  I don't know what
the time control was for the game.

Gordon


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