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Subject: Re: Results of 112 engines in test suite "WM-Test" (100 pos) for download

Author: Manfred Meiler

Date: 07:08:51 08/21/02

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On August 21, 2002 at 05:58:25, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 21, 2002 at 01:42:07, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:25:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>(...)
>>>No reason to be surprised.
>>>This test was designed to put Fritz on top because the analysis was done by
>>>Fritz to decide about the positions.

>>
>>What exactly do you mean?
>>
>>Do you really mean, "designed to put Fritz on top"? If not - and I assume (and
>>hope) you didn't mean that - then I suggest to be a bit more careful. Now it
>>sounds like an accusation.

>
>I mean that the testers used Fritz to analyze
>before deciding about the positions.
>
>Vincent said that when he asked about a position they gave him Fritz's analysis
>as a proof.


Mr. Blass,

how do you know so exactly in which way this test suite was designed ?
Where's the proof for your statement above ?
Only the fact that Mr. Diepeveen has got Fritz's analysis as a proof from the
test authors Michael Gurevich and Heinz-Josef Schumacher ? That would be
ridiculous...

Do you really believe that the authors Mr. Gurevich and Mr. Schumacher worked
almost two years (altogether) in designing this large test suite only to put
Fritz on top ?
Do you really believe that me myself would invest so much (computer) time - 112
(versions of) engines x 100 test positions x 20 minutes - in testing and
documentation of my results - only to put Fritz on top ?

Why should we do that ? For money or other profits ?
Maybe it's impossible in your eyes but - these test efforts are only a private
hobby of "ordinary" friends of (computer) chess with interest to chess engines
and test suites (like the earlier BS-2830, GS-2930 or BS-2001) - without
professional claim, without any commercial interests.

I have to state: It obvious makes little (or no) sense to give my EXCEL results
of WM-Test to the public. It's not very funny to see such
insinuations/accusations in consequence.

Maybe my english ain't good enough but I hope it's clear for you now, Mr. Blass:
Take or leave this test suite and my results - but don't insult people without
any proof !
If you nevertheless want to continue in such manner: I will answer no more to
you.

Manfred Meiler



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