Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 07:40:57 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 10:08:51, Manfred Meiler wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 05:58:25, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 01:42:07, Mike S. wrote: >> >>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:25:43, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>(...) >>>>No reason to be surprised. >>>>This test was designed to put Fritz on top because the analysis was done by >>>>Fritz to decide about the positions. > >>> >>>What exactly do you mean? >>> >>>Do you really mean, "designed to put Fritz on top"? If not - and I assume (and >>>hope) you didn't mean that - then I suggest to be a bit more careful. Now it >>>sounds like an accusation. > >> >>I mean that the testers used Fritz to analyze >>before deciding about the positions. >> >>Vincent said that when he asked about a position they gave him Fritz's analysis >>as a proof. > > >Mr. Blass, > >how do you know so exactly in which way this test suite was designed ? >Where's the proof for your statement above ? >Only the fact that Mr. Diepeveen has got Fritz's analysis as a proof from the >test authors Michael Gurevich and Heinz-Josef Schumacher ? That would be >ridiculous... > >Do you really believe that the authors Mr. Gurevich and Mr. Schumacher worked >almost two years (altogether) in designing this large test suite only to put >Fritz on top ? >Do you really believe that me myself would invest so much (computer) time - 112 >(versions of) engines x 100 test positions x 20 minutes - in testing and >documentation of my results - only to put Fritz on top ? > >Why should we do that ? For money or other profits ? >Maybe it's impossible in your eyes but - these test efforts are only a private >hobby of "ordinary" friends of (computer) chess with interest to chess engines >and test suites (like the earlier BS-2830, GS-2930 or BS-2001) - without >professional claim, without any commercial interests. > >I have to state: It obvious makes little (or no) sense to give my EXCEL results >of WM-Test to the public. It's not very funny to see such >insinuations/accusations in consequence. > >Maybe my english ain't good enough but I hope it's clear for you now, Mr. Blass: >Take or leave this test suite and my results - but don't insult people without >any proof ! >If you nevertheless want to continue in such manner: I will answer no more to >you. > >Manfred Meiler Manfred, I think most people here think you did a GREAT job and really appreciate your making the results (very professionally presented) available. I know I do. :-)
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