Author: Manfred Meiler
Date: 08:54:21 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 10:40:57, Roy Eassa wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 10:08:51, Manfred Meiler wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 05:58:25, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2002 at 01:42:07, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2002 at 17:25:43, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>(...) >>>>>No reason to be surprised. >>>>>This test was designed to put Fritz on top because the analysis was done by >>>>>Fritz to decide about the positions. >> >>>> >>>>What exactly do you mean? >>>> >>>>Do you really mean, "designed to put Fritz on top"? If not - and I assume (and >>>>hope) you didn't mean that - then I suggest to be a bit more careful. Now it >>>>sounds like an accusation. >> >>> >>>I mean that the testers used Fritz to analyze >>>before deciding about the positions. >>> >>>Vincent said that when he asked about a position they gave him Fritz's analysis >>>as a proof. >> >> >>Mr. Blass, >> >>how do you know so exactly in which way this test suite was designed ? >>Where's the proof for your statement above ? >>Only the fact that Mr. Diepeveen has got Fritz's analysis as a proof from the >>test authors Michael Gurevich and Heinz-Josef Schumacher ? That would be >>ridiculous... >> >>Do you really believe that the authors Mr. Gurevich and Mr. Schumacher worked >>almost two years (altogether) in designing this large test suite only to put >>Fritz on top ? >>Do you really believe that me myself would invest so much (computer) time - 112 >>(versions of) engines x 100 test positions x 20 minutes - in testing and >>documentation of my results - only to put Fritz on top ? >> >>Why should we do that ? For money or other profits ? >>Maybe it's impossible in your eyes but - these test efforts are only a private >>hobby of "ordinary" friends of (computer) chess with interest to chess engines >>and test suites (like the earlier BS-2830, GS-2930 or BS-2001) - without >>professional claim, without any commercial interests. >> >>I have to state: It obvious makes little (or no) sense to give my EXCEL results >>of WM-Test to the public. It's not very funny to see such >>insinuations/accusations in consequence. >> >>Maybe my english ain't good enough but I hope it's clear for you now, Mr. Blass: >>Take or leave this test suite and my results - but don't insult people without >>any proof ! >>If you nevertheless want to continue in such manner: I will answer no more to >>you. >> >>Manfred Meiler > > >Manfred, I think most people here think you did a GREAT job and really >appreciate your making the results (very professionally presented) available. I >know I do. :-) Hello Roy, I'm glad about your friendly comment. Good to hear that you (and some other people) - at least - respect our test efforts. You should know: It's no big problem for me if some people call this test suite and/or my results bad, worthless or maybe a piece of sh.. but some insinuations in this context are simply - impudent ! And that's what I won't accept... Regards, Manfred
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