Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:58:51 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 14:56:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 14:49:00, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 13:33:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2002 at 07:49:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2002 at 20:27:18, martin fierz wrote: >>>> >>>>In these days all programs were so bad that games were decided by >>>>who didn't give away most pieces *usually*. >>>> >>>>So in that respect all games from then are biased as the level of >>>>*every* participant was 600 points lower than they are now. >>> >>>That's wrong. We had >2200 programs back then. Belle was > 2200 in 1983. >>>In 1984 Cray Blitz was 2250 officially. Hitech was almost 2500 officially. >>>Deep Thought was >2600 officially. All of those "official" ratings were earned >>>by playing only humans, comp vs comp was never rated officially by any >>>organization we dealt with... >> >>Fritz3(p90) had also IM norm against humans but if you >>look at it's ssdf rating you can see more than 400 >>elo difference relative to the top programs. >> >>If you remember that A1200 that is used by the ssdf is not >>the best hardware you can say that Fritz3(p90) is almost 600 elo weaker than >>the top programs of today in comp-comp games. >> >>Fritz3(p90) played in 1995. >> >>Most Programs that played against deep thought played >>when p90 was not available. >> >>Uri > >Right and like cray blitz they also blundered away material against >the thing. Please show me "the Cray Blitz blunders".... Cray Blitz was not exactly known to do that... Nor did most good micro programs back then including genius and the like...
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