Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 16:50:37 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 17:58:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 14:56:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 14:49:00, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2002 at 13:33:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On August 21, 2002 at 07:49:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 20, 2002 at 20:27:18, martin fierz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>In these days all programs were so bad that games were decided by >>>>>who didn't give away most pieces *usually*. >>>>> >>>>>So in that respect all games from then are biased as the level of >>>>>*every* participant was 600 points lower than they are now. >>>> >>>>That's wrong. We had >2200 programs back then. Belle was > 2200 in 1983. >>>>In 1984 Cray Blitz was 2250 officially. Hitech was almost 2500 officially. >>>>Deep Thought was >2600 officially. All of those "official" ratings were earned >>>>by playing only humans, comp vs comp was never rated officially by any >>>>organization we dealt with... >>> >>>Fritz3(p90) had also IM norm against humans but if you >>>look at it's ssdf rating you can see more than 400 >>>elo difference relative to the top programs. >>> >>>If you remember that A1200 that is used by the ssdf is not >>>the best hardware you can say that Fritz3(p90) is almost 600 elo weaker than >>>the top programs of today in comp-comp games. >>> >>>Fritz3(p90) played in 1995. >>> >>>Most Programs that played against deep thought played >>>when p90 was not available. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Right and like cray blitz they also blundered away material against >>the thing. > > >Please show me "the Cray Blitz blunders".... > >Cray Blitz was not exactly known to do that... Nor did most good micro >programs back then including genius and the like... Rb2?? against deepthought
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