Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:07:59 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 19:50:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 17:58:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 14:56:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2002 at 14:49:00, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 21, 2002 at 13:33:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 21, 2002 at 07:49:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 20, 2002 at 20:27:18, martin fierz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>In these days all programs were so bad that games were decided by >>>>>>who didn't give away most pieces *usually*. >>>>>> >>>>>>So in that respect all games from then are biased as the level of >>>>>>*every* participant was 600 points lower than they are now. >>>>> >>>>>That's wrong. We had >2200 programs back then. Belle was > 2200 in 1983. >>>>>In 1984 Cray Blitz was 2250 officially. Hitech was almost 2500 officially. >>>>>Deep Thought was >2600 officially. All of those "official" ratings were earned >>>>>by playing only humans, comp vs comp was never rated officially by any >>>>>organization we dealt with... >>>> >>>>Fritz3(p90) had also IM norm against humans but if you >>>>look at it's ssdf rating you can see more than 400 >>>>elo difference relative to the top programs. >>>> >>>>If you remember that A1200 that is used by the ssdf is not >>>>the best hardware you can say that Fritz3(p90) is almost 600 elo weaker than >>>>the top programs of today in comp-comp games. >>>> >>>>Fritz3(p90) played in 1995. >>>> >>>>Most Programs that played against deep thought played >>>>when p90 was not available. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Right and like cray blitz they also blundered away material against >>>the thing. >> >> >>Please show me "the Cray Blitz blunders".... >> >>Cray Blitz was not exactly known to do that... Nor did most good micro >>programs back then including genius and the like... > >Rb2?? against deepthought Which game? Which event? Which year? Wouldn't surprise me if the game was already lost at such a point, but you might not have seen it...
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