Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 11:38:04 08/23/02
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On August 23, 2002 at 10:05:02, Albert Silver wrote: >>Well, give them a break then. Yeah, the logs weren't available, the re-match >>didn't happen. Just a lot of stuff they hadn't planned for happened and didn't >>happen. > >The logs are available for download at the IBM site of DB. > >> >>From the outside, I guess their behavior looked strange, rude, unaccountable. >>But if you think about it (especially if you've ever worked in a >>mega-corporation), it makes perfect sense. >> >>Why people can't see this is beyond me. Why do we need to hear you guys >>discredit their work, belittle their playing strength, and pooh pooh their >>victory? What is there to be learned from such stuff? >> >>All the other DT/DB machines were the best. DB2 was surely that and much more. >> >>Why is that so hard to accept? > >I agree completely. I also agree with your use of "were" and "was". > >>You will say "I analyzed the games. They didn't impress me". Yet they were >>good enough to rattle and _defeat_ THE WORLD CHAMPION. >> >>Even THE WORLD CHAMPION HIMSELF was impressed with at least _one_ move. > >Sort of. He claimed that the move was evidence of cheating as neither Fritz nor >Hiarcs would play it after any length of time. Only the WC can explain why he >thought DB would play like a souped up Fritz or Hiarcs. > >>I'd bet GNUChess running on a 10ghz processor could beat today's commercials on >>their 2ghz machines. Surely, DB2 would have an even greater speed advantage. > >I'm 100% sure it would get clobbered. It might interest you to know that in the >SSDF matches played for Hiarcs 8, Hiarcs 8 running on an Athlon 1200 MHz lost to >Junior 7 running on a K62-450 MHz. Not a common occurence to be sure, but it >does illustrate that speed is not everything. > > Albert We're not talking about 2x 3x or 4x speed differential, are we. If speed is 50x or 100x and the eval is decent, it will be _enough_. But for some reason, people have difficulty with their sense of proportion, and can't tell the difference between 4x and 100x. Fascinating.
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