Author: Albert Silver
Date: 11:48:26 08/23/02
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On August 23, 2002 at 14:38:04, Matthew Hull wrote:
>On August 23, 2002 at 10:05:02, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>>Well, give them a break then. Yeah, the logs weren't available, the re-match
>>>didn't happen. Just a lot of stuff they hadn't planned for happened and didn't
>>>happen.
>>
>>The logs are available for download at the IBM site of DB.
>>
>>>
>>>From the outside, I guess their behavior looked strange, rude, unaccountable.
>>>But if you think about it (especially if you've ever worked in a
>>>mega-corporation), it makes perfect sense.
>>>
>>>Why people can't see this is beyond me. Why do we need to hear you guys
>>>discredit their work, belittle their playing strength, and pooh pooh their
>>>victory? What is there to be learned from such stuff?
>>>
>>>All the other DT/DB machines were the best. DB2 was surely that and much more.
>>>
>>>Why is that so hard to accept?
>>
>>I agree completely. I also agree with your use of "were" and "was".
>>
>>>You will say "I analyzed the games. They didn't impress me". Yet they were
>>>good enough to rattle and _defeat_ THE WORLD CHAMPION.
>>>
>>>Even THE WORLD CHAMPION HIMSELF was impressed with at least _one_ move.
>>
>>Sort of. He claimed that the move was evidence of cheating as neither Fritz nor
>>Hiarcs would play it after any length of time. Only the WC can explain why he
>>thought DB would play like a souped up Fritz or Hiarcs.
>>
>>>I'd bet GNUChess running on a 10ghz processor could beat today's commercials on
>>>their 2ghz machines. Surely, DB2 would have an even greater speed advantage.
>>
>>I'm 100% sure it would get clobbered. It might interest you to know that in the
>>SSDF matches played for Hiarcs 8, Hiarcs 8 running on an Athlon 1200 MHz lost to
>>Junior 7 running on a K62-450 MHz. Not a common occurence to be sure, but it
>>does illustrate that speed is not everything.
>>
>> Albert
>
>
>We're not talking about 2x 3x or 4x speed differential, are we. If speed is 50x
>or 100x and the eval is decent, it will be _enough_. But for some reason,
>people have difficulty with their sense of proportion, and can't tell the
>difference between 4x and 100x. Fascinating.
In my book, 10 GHz = 5 x 2GHz.
Albert
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