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Subject: Re: questions about the opening book of programs

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 07:35:30 08/15/98

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On August 15, 1998 at 09:20:55, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>I know of some cases where killer books have been used, but after talking with
>dozens of other chess programmers, I'm convinced it isn't a serious problem.
>Most people aren't out to get other people at these tournaments. They just want
>to do well and have fun.
>
>-Tom
>
>On August 15, 1998 at 08:20:23, Robert Henry Durrett wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 1998 at 21:12:17, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I think it is a mistake to use other probabilities then 0 and 1 in competitions
>>>like the WMCC.
>>>The opening book should not be known to the public otherwise it is easy to learn
>>>the program.
>>>The program can learn after a game it loses by changing a probabilities
>>>0 to 1 and 1 to 0
>>>
>>>Do programs use an opening book with probability 0 and 1 in events like
>>>the WMCC?
>>>
>>>How many positions the opening books of programs contain?
>>>
>>>Uri
>>Perhaps that's one of the reasons why the people who submit their chess engines
>>for evaluation would not wish to use the opening repertoire which comes with the
>>published version.
>>
>>It seems that such competitions for ratings are, to some extent, competitions in
>>selection of opening book lines.
>>
>>What is the answer to this problem?  How can the "opening book competition"
>>factor be removed?  Is it sensible to do this?


It isn't a serious problem but not for the reason that Tom gave. All programs
have learning features whether it is a book learning feature or a middle game
learning feature. The 2 are combined in M-Chess 7.1 so that they feed off each
other. One of my wishes for Crafty is to be able to actually learn the openings
by extending Crafty's book the way that M-Chess does it. However in a short
computer chess tournament learning is of little importance. Therefore opening
book preparation for comp-comp tournaments  takes on the importance that it does
for GM play.  Hiarcs 6 lost a game in KK Kup 2  directly attributed to a bad
opening.

--
Komputer Korner



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