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Subject: Re: Book vs. Engine

Author: José Carlos

Date: 14:24:10 08/26/02

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On August 26, 2002 at 15:08:43, William H Rogers wrote:

>On August 26, 2002 at 09:50:47, José Carlos wrote:
>>  If you're only interested in analytical capabilities, a match with same book
>>won't work, because pondering scheme, time management, asymetrical eval, etc
>>will make the test worthless. If you only want to test analytical capabilities
>>you'd better use a big test suite, IMO.
>>
>>  José C.
>
>Your statement is not correct, because as long as a program is using its books
>the rest of the program is in an idle state with no pondering ect.

  I'm sorry but I don't understand how this makes my statement incorrect. I'll
repeat and you point where your statement refutes mine: a) you might want to
test a whole program, with book, tablebases, pondering, configuration files,
time management, hash tables, anti-human mode, ... Then you must use the _whole_
thing. b) you might want to test the analyzing capabilities of the program, so
you forget about book, tablebases, pondering etc. and just try some positions.
  What does this have to do with the program being idle or not? If my program
moves right after a fail high and have no move to ponder, it stays idle until
the opponent moves. So what?

>It only goes
>into those modes when it is out of book moves. If it finds a book move then the
>move is made immediately, not after it has thought about it first.
>Bill

  Wrong again. My program _thinks_ carefully what to do: choose one of the book
moves (determining it under some criteria) or searching in the hope to find a
better move. That is done by the engine!
  The moral is that there's a lot of thinking and programming time after a book.
Let alone the learning schemes!
  This said, I respect people interested only in analyzing capabilities. That's
another choice. A different than mine, but totally respectable. I only want to
note that matching programs without book or with the same book does _not_ show
the analyzing capabilities.

  José C.



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