Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 16:38:19 08/26/02
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On August 26, 2002 at 19:11:27, Mike Byrne wrote: >On August 26, 2002 at 17:48:27, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On August 26, 2002 at 17:45:04, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>I would like to see two different programs with and without opening books. I >>>think the difference between unlike programs would be less. >>> >>>Mike >> >>Hello: >> >>Not at all. What it is being proved here is how a chess program can increased >>its level using a book. >> >>The most realiable prove is doing it against the same engine without book. >> >>A mixture of different engine doesnt prove anything. > >That's not true , I just played Crafty and Yace both with books in a 100 game >match - ..I can play one against the other - one without book - that would give >me some data on the impact of books. > The problem here is what Engines to choose in order to get reliable data. Engine plus Book plus Engine without Book against what? Amateurs? Which Amateurs? All the Amateurs? Comercials? Which Comercials? All the Comercials? If you dont choose all the programs, why would you choose Crafy Vs Yace instead Crafty Vs Fritz or Gandalf? The idea of to Match the Engine + Book Vs the Engine without book is to validate how the Engine increased its level with an opening book. It can happen that Yace without Book can easily beat Crafty withtout Book but what does it prove? Only that Yace is stronger than Crafty. Validating against only one Engine only show the impact against that specific engine. But the idea is validate how the Engine is increasing its levell using a good book. By the way, this is my vision. The debate above was: The engine without book is at the same level with the same engine with book. How can you demonstrate that this is not true? Against other engine? Telle me how and I will ship your idea :) Regards, Arturo.
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