Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 17:34:38 08/26/02
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On August 26, 2002 at 19:38:19, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >On August 26, 2002 at 19:11:27, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On August 26, 2002 at 17:48:27, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >> >>>On August 26, 2002 at 17:45:04, Mike Byrne wrote: >>> >>>>I would like to see two different programs with and without opening books. I >>>>think the difference between unlike programs would be less. >>>> >>>>Mike >>> >>>Hello: >>> >>>Not at all. What it is being proved here is how a chess program can increased >>>its level using a book. >>> >>>The most realiable prove is doing it against the same engine without book. >>> >>>A mixture of different engine doesnt prove anything. >> >>That's not true , I just played Crafty and Yace both with books in a 100 game >>match - ..I can play one against the other - one without book - that would give >>me some data on the impact of books. >> > >The problem here is what Engines to choose in order to get reliable data. > >Engine plus Book plus Engine without Book against what? >Amateurs? Which Amateurs? All the Amateurs? >Comercials? Which Comercials? All the Comercials? > >If you dont choose all the programs, why would you choose Crafy Vs Yace instead >Crafty Vs Fritz or Gandalf? > >The idea of to Match the Engine + Book Vs the Engine without book is to validate >how the Engine increased its level with an opening book. > >It can happen that Yace without Book can easily beat Crafty withtout Book but >what does it prove? That's my point, you not even reading what I am saying - I just played 100 games both with book, now I (could) play Yace WITHOUT book vs Crafty WITH book, then flipflop, play crafty WITH book and yace WITHOUT book - don't try to read in between the lines, just read the lines and you'll be fine. ;>) Regards, Mike > >Only that Yace is stronger than Crafty. > >Validating against only one Engine only show the impact against that specific >engine. > >But the idea is validate how the Engine is increasing its levell using a good >book. > >By the way, this is my vision. > >The debate above was: The engine without book is at the same level with the same >engine with book. > >How can you demonstrate that this is not true? Against other engine? > >Telle me how and I will ship your idea :) > > >Regards, Arturo.
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