Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 20:45:37 08/26/02
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<snip> > >My point is: Why Crafty Vs Yace and not Crafty Vs Fritz or Gandalf? Crafty (my version) plays handicapped under the Fritz GUI. So I use Arena. Fritz doesn't play under Arena. I do not have Gandalf and at this point in time, I have no desire to spend money on Gandalf and I would not ask for nor would I accept an illegal copy. Although I have heard it's a very good engine. If it comes down in price - under $30, I would buy it perhaps. > >I have read all you proposal but your objetive seems to be pretty different to >my specified point. > >I read all your idea that is valuable but you should have to run against the >other engines. It would be nice to do if I have the time. > >The objetive is to show that an Engine is doing better with book and not without >book that it is being sold in this Forum as the Law of the Physics. > >Tell me, if your time is 2 minutes how can I conclude that the data is reliable >with lightning chess? Two minute chess is only good for assessing 2 minute chess games - if that's your point, I agree. Although there is a belief that it may correlate somewhat to longer time controls. My own, unrpoven belief is that if a program does not play well at long time controls, it will usually not be a top tier program at blitz. On the other hand, a top tier program at blitz, may or may not be a top tier program at longer time controls. A less than top tier program at blitz, may be a top tier program at longer time controls. That's from watching programs play programs and humans for over the last 20 years. 9 years I had a computer account "Fitter" using the Mephisto Genius 68030 dedicated unit and was playing blitz over the internet on ICC. ( Yes , I had very fast hands back then). ;>) Fitter becme the top rated active player (computer and human) for a short time until the P90's came out. It was doing very well against on GM's at blitz time controls. (Those were the days that titled players were very willing to play good computers over the internet - now it's almost impossible - since they all can play them at home at their leisure.). Mephisto 68030 would get eaten alive by all professional and most amatuer programs on today's strong hardware at long time controls. But it would do a little better (relative to the long time controls) at blitz. > >In this point, I must be pretty obstinate because I don´t see how you can show >this. I agree you are very pretty ....obstinate ;>) Best regards, Mike > >Regards, Arturo and it is very intereting this debate. :) > >
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