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Subject: Re: The book issue

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 04:28:54 08/27/02

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On August 26, 2002 at 15:58:11, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 26, 2002 at 15:43:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2002 at 12:07:52, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 25, 2002 at 18:54:11, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>
>>>>I never implied otherwise. But you make "take their stuff" sound like I steal
>>>>it. But what if I BOUGHT it?
>>>
>>>If I buy a book or a CD I can read the book or play the CD. But I am not allowed
>>>to state 'I wrote this book' or 'This is my music work on this CD'. I even
>>>cannot COPY parts of the book and use it for my own, without a permission of the
>>>publisher. In case of 'using' a commercial book: You'll either have to hack the
>>>code (illegal) or play with the same GUI that supports such a book (not allowed
>>>in the ICGA rules).
>>>
>>>So why not keep it simple: Invite a brilliant opening expert in the Tao team!
>>>Completely legal, gives you a new book that nobody knows :-).
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's not the same. THIS is the same: 1000 copies of Tao being sold. The >buyers own their copy, and if there was a guy with a super-book and he used his
>>>>copy+book in a tournament under the name SuperChess I would have no problem >with that. He bought it, he owns his copy. He can do with it what he likes. He >can use the CD as a frisbee for his dog, play at a server, or compete in
>>>>tournaments. I don't care :-)
>>>
>>>Well, in that matter I am having a different opinion. And I think most of the
>>>programmers that make a living out of computerchess as well. Besides, the rules
>>>are not allowing such a combination :-).
>>
>>My opinion is that it depends on the competition.
>>
>>If it is a competition that Christophe is involved directly
>>like wccc then I think that the rules should not allow opponents
>>to use the tiger's book.
>>
>>If it is a competition that a user does for fun and publish the
>>results then I see no problem unless the user hide information
>>about the book that was used.
>>
>>I consider ssdf as one of the most serious competition that users
>>do for fun.
>>
>>If the users(ssdf testers) bought both Fritz7 and Tiger14
>>they should be allowed to test tiger14 with Fritz7's book without
>>a special permission from you or from kure or from christophe.
>>
>>If the testers got it as a gift they should not be allowed to
>>test tiger14 with fritz7's book if there is an objection.
>
>I don't think SSDF should mix and match books.

I agree. But Uri is right, we can if we want to.

Tony

>If they do that, and you want to
>reproduce results, then you will have to buy both products to achieve the
>required configuration.
>
>It becomes more expensive to try to replicate the results of some particular
>run.



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